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Tues LL 08.27.24 Distinctions in Christ Consciousness
« on: August 27, 2024, 15:13:51 pm »
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Tues LL 08.27.24


Another example to look at is A Course In Miracles. That would be an example where Ron has transmitted with Schucman the author, and it's a text-training to prepare the mind for The Universal Father. And Marianne Williamson came along afterward and has taught the Course in Miracles as a New Thought version of Christ Consciousness.
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Re: Tues LL 08.27.24 Distinctions in Christ Consciousness
« Reply #1 on: August 27, 2024, 22:03:42 pm »
For Wednesday LL, 8/28, Ron and I will be on and at thew very least I'll continue with today's theme and take any Q&A along the way.

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Re: Tues LL 08.27.24 Distinctions in Christ Consciousness
« Reply #2 on: August 27, 2024, 22:17:51 pm »
Hi Dominick,
the link to the recording does not open when you click on it.
You have to copy and paste. Kindly look into it. Thank you. God Bless.

Love and Blessings,
Moses


Dom here, Moses. Fixed! Thanks for the notice :)
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Re: Tues LL 08.27.24 Distinctions in Christ Consciousness
« Reply #3 on: August 29, 2024, 15:29:20 pm »

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Welcome to Tuesday Lightline, August 27, 2024. I'm Dominick, your host, and this is a weekly Lightline for Tuesdays. And they happen on Sundays and Mondays for sure, and some other days sometimes as well. We start with a prayer and an invocation of God our Father, our Universal Father, also that same spirit of God that Jesus revealed that resides in us and that we pray that we can achieve brotherhood and being born again of the Spirit, and that we have the benefit of your clear communication and transmission when we gather like this and ask to receive you. It is very clear and important to make it clear exactly who we are invoking and inviting to be with us and to serve. We hold these Lightlines on their request and in their service.

And this is yes, Jesus, who is divine, and that divinity we represent as Michael of Nebadon, a Creator Son stemming from the Paradise Trinity, but a Creator here in the local universe of time and space, who created us. And as Jesus was divine, that was Michael incarnating, bestowing himself as a human in his creation. And that we treat Jesus as a separate person after that event, but they can be one of the same at Michael's and Jesus choosing, to represent God to man.

And so, to be born of the spirit, to be born again of the spirit, is what Jesus taught in the achievement of Christ consciousness, which was to understand the divinity within as the Universal Father, and that this is the way Jesus showed that the relationship born of the spirit, and that such a divinity relationship is also a Deity relationship. And not that man is the sole origin of such a divinity that Christ consciousness recognizes, the divinity of Jesus and Michael, and our Universal Father.

And spirit involves things like the Holy Trinity and the Holy Spirit, who is the spirit associate of a Creator Son, for example. The Son and the Spirit are always intertwined. So, we thank, we thank our Lord, and we thank our Father. Our Lord will always instruct us and join us in thanking our Father.

Now, why is that important or stressed in this Lightline for today's theme? And while we settle ourselves, we welcome Ron to the Lightline. I hope you got your tea, and you're all settled down. And that brings us to 13 on the call.

So, the theme is related to something that's not necessarily controversial, but a divergence in people's approach to Christ consciousness. One of the things we talk about here and why Lightlines exist, or things like the Magisterial Foundation exist, is for things called missions, where these Divine Sons and up to deity status, can incarnate in spiritual missions. This is a .., for Bible students, this could be understood in things when I talk about the Regency, things like Psalms 46. Which also has a very widely interpreted line of 'Be still and know that I am God'. Which, for some Christians is interpreted in more of a mystical Christianity understanding, and treats Christ as a Way shower, more like an Ascended Master, which is what other religions condescend Jesus as, not both a divine Son of God, our Creator Son Michael of Nebadon bestowing, but rather the mystical Christianity views Christ Jesus as an Ascended Master. Certainly, other religions like I think Islam treats it that way.

So, why that's important is more or less an editorial, and I'm not sure if I have a transmission today, so I'm hoping, or if I'm getting any help, it's how to speak editorially on a bunch of information we have to cover. However, it’s needs to be covered, because there, if you, and again, this is editorial, if you're, if you live in the United States or Europe, or really anywhere on the planet, if you're not agitated in some aspect, well, you must be living under a rock, because there's plenty on some sort of screen telling you how to be agitated or vying for your brain space, your mind space, or propagandizing you somehow with some slant on some news that should make you agitated. It's actually designed to make you agitated, so you can't help it.

So, we've just had some political conventions, which is a textbook in rhetorical usage and symbol usage. So, some interesting side effects, well, essentially, we're not here today to be lectured. This is more of a working group Lightline today. And I can be interrupted at any moment with a transmission, but until then, we're just going to go with this lesson, and it's starts like this.

There are more like a State of the Union of transmitters is that certainly, and you as an audience of these core listeners, there is not an encouragement to be uniform in either your understanding, or even your agreement with all the transmitters who say things day in and day out, week in and week out. We have different perspectives and realities, and we try to describe what comes in. But when it comes to applying matter of understanding those lessons were human, and we're very different. And one example is how to interpret the world around us. It's as we are taught, but that's going to be totally unique to you, in your experience and you're all sorts of things. So, all I'm telling you is that there is no total uniformity in the way that Ron and I think about things, and that's why we find each other stimulating, and we find that we have the same type of mind but think and have different experiences in totally different ways, and that's actually stimulating. As Ron hears things, for example, that can test his own thoughts and ideas with new information, and likewise for myself. And same with Elise and Lemuel and other transmitters.

So, I'm just here to give you some insights onto as to why there might be such division in the world, and some of those things are related to Christ consciousness. The religion of the Democratic Party, as it has been or is being reformed. And if you recall, in a Light line, I don't know, a month ago, we talked about how the political parties that you might have grown up with are actually in complete flux by now. There should be no illusions that anything you and I grew up with, even 10 to 20 years ago, resembles anything like what you should or would expect, it’s just don’t look like now. And one of those things is the approach to religion and God. Now, me Dominick, I'm kind of an investigative person. I'm open to information, and I do a lot of like forensic things and critical thinking, and I try to synthesize. And so what happens sometimes is I get - what's the word? - cognitive dissonance. When what was spoken to yesterday, I realized I'm under some sort of spell of illusion of thought that's gone one way, and that new synthesis broke the previous understandings.

Now a lot of propaganda and the information is going to be like a game called Plinko, if you've ever seen prices, right? But that's kind of like an inclined pegboard with a bunch of pegs, and at the top of the slope you let go of a disc. And so basically, this disc has a binary choice, is it going to fall left or fall right? And it falls down like, you know, 50 levels of pegs to the point where you have no idea where it's going to land at the bottom, but it's a kind of fun game. I think they even have those kind of games and casinos. And so, you can imagine the same analogy when it comes to our thoughts. We have all of these issues, and we end up deciding on this validity or truth, and we accumulate all of these thoughts, and we land somewhere at the bottom, and it's built on these series of of decisions on facts and truth and opinion, on right and wrong, or, you know, etc. And then that's always in flux.

So, back to our theme, you know, little things like the alluring that, for example, Eisenhower put inunder God in the Pledge of Allegiance back in the day, so that there would be a distinction between the United States and communist countries. And that we learned that the Democratic Convention in 2020 purposely omitted that, which is politics. You know, you can put it in, you can put it out. But for the lesson, the context is under God is a nod to that personhood of divinity. Whereas the religion of you could say the left today, and we'll get to the right, the right is no saint. So, I don't wish to be biased, because the spell can be easily broken further right as well. But for the sake of the Christ consciousness lesson, the reason the far left and the new alliance of democratic religion of the left can cohabitate religiously, is because of an understanding of Christ consciousness, which has its origins and evolution.

In some respects, Vatican two, you could say, set some conditions for this as an approach politically amongst religions, is to not be so dogmatic about the divinity of God or the divinity and humanity of Jesus, and rather to accept that all religions have a seat at the table. Now this is a kind of origins of what's called post modernism, where opinion and perspective take almost precedence or equality, with fact and truth. So the kind of joke of critics of post modernism is that it doesn't matter if you're right, it matters that you try to answer the question. And the joke is, if the student says that two plus two equals five, well, good for you. You tried to answer the question, and if that's what you think, then your perspective is equal amongst all the others who also have an opinion. And then the fact is that two plus two equals four. But a post modernism says that it's your personal truth that matters more than any objective truth.

And so, with Christ consciousness this post-modernist approach inverts the divinity. Remember rebel doctrine inverts. So, it's not going to be outright evil rebellion declaring, hey, we're evil and you should join us. It's simply going to teach something that they think is good and equal in its value to what they're contradicting. And so it becomes inverted. So, the inversion of the Father within and a divine Christ, representing a deity and being divine and incarnate, incarnating and bestowing and having a fragment of the Father, cohabitating within you and having a relationship. The inversion of that is that you simply need to tap into your inherent divinity. And that would and that achieves your Christ consciousness.

I'd like to thank a source of information for giving more words to this, and it's Melissa Doherty on YouTube, and I'm just citing some passages. But in the Bible, and I'm not a student of the Bible, so I rely on others, but when she cited these passages, it would be Matthew 7:21-23, next would be 2 Corinthians 11:2-4, and thirdly, Galatians. 1:6-7; those passages are in context of the difference between approaches and Christ consciousness. Now, something about these Lightlines and say, the fifth epochal revelation, and something like the teaching mission, or whether transmission with the administration and spiritual circuits of divinity and God are even possible. And welcome, Charlotte.

Anyway, where was I? Yes. The trepidation and criticism have been warranted, but somewhat misplaced at times, and at other times it's been beneficial. Because, well, what do you mean Dominick by saying that you still haven't defined what the left religion is? And so it's not necessarily, it's not theosophy, it's not New Age. It's something that I didn't have words for even a week ago until now, and apparently, it's called New Thought (transcriber’s note: capitalized only for emphasis throughout). And new but I'm, I'm not a stranger, and no one should be a stranger to what's called New Thought. But New Thought is not New Age, but New Thought is this kind of a mystical Christianity. Therefore, people claim to be Christian, but it's a different attitude and view of Jesus. And so Lightlines are not theosophical, because we invoke and we are in service to the divine person of Jesus, and the origins of his divinity, our Universal Father and our Creator Son.

We are not New Thought, which has its origins in fairly modern times. And it's really looking at Christ as something that is of an inversion of being born of the Spirit. I in that you're not born in the Spirit of of our Universal Father and our Lord, rather, you are born in an almostWell, a discovery and ascendancy, if you will, of discovering your power. And so that's why you have all these messaging of good vibes, good thoughts, happiness, and that the goal of Christ consciousness is to find your untapped divinity, which is inherently in you.

Now it's up to the students to determine how truthful all of that is. But now you have a little bit of an understanding how this starts to become applied on a planetary scale, and how something like conflict can happen with large sets of populations hardwired as human free will beings to be self-deterministic. And on one end, you might have a general population who understands Christ consciousness with a with one view of the Universal Father and more biblical nature, and Old Testament nature, and another large segment who, A) views that differently, and B), and B and C), both sides end up seeing the other as in their worst light of threat, existentially to the other.

Now a little bit back to the agitation is that there's no way to remove this from human experience. None of our institutions are immune from this subtle behavior. So, the only reason I shared the fact that I sometimes disagree strongly, is that not to be put off by this, but to understand that a Unity does exist despite any difference in our service, devotion, faith and love for our Father and our Lord Michael and Jesus. And all aspects of any revealed religion, like the Paradise Trinity that we also know as God, such as the Holy Spirit of the Infinite Spirit and our Mother Spirit, who, despite any problems she has endured, we do have an experience with her and have enjoyed that in the past.

So, some of the New Thought authors are, I guess, last names like Goddard and Butterworth. But it's an inversion of Christ consciousness that puts the elevates the self as a little God by replacing your personal divinity with that of our Universal Father and our Lord. And therefore, it also elevates the mind as a method and vehicle to sink our way into Christ consciousness. Which would be the teachings of a New Thought. It's not something we teach on Lightlines, but it does have its influence.

So, for example, New Thought, in my opinion, influences the way Lemuel talks about the ego. Whereas I personally talk about the ego from a psychotherapist and neuroscientist type of perspective. So that I could give you some insights as to why there might be conflicting in transcripts, for example, in subjects like the ego. But a New Thought, the ego is something that gets in the way of discovering and working with your own divinity. For example, with if you leave New Thought and look at it from a neuroscientist psychological perspective, without an ego, you would be the world and universe would be so immense, there would be too much to deal with, and you would you wouldn't know how to have a laser focus of your mind, of an identity, and a drive.

But that where those things come back into a kind of a unification is that you could say, Lemuel and I would both agree that once you learn to direct your ego in the will of our Father, and within a cooperator with spirit in the ego in its right place, then do you have a well-functioning human being born again of the Spirit and the ego is working as it should and could in its peak performance.

And so, just when you think the one side is a god is godless, just understand now they have their own approach, and it's kind of most post-modernistic you understand now, their approach to Christ consciousness doesn't necessarily include a biblical God and the fifth epochal revelation God for that matter.

And then just to be balanced. And who knows what fair is, but to be balanced is that just when you think you fall like that Plinko I was talking about earlier. And if you disagree with the left and you gravitate to the right, or vice versa, but if you gravitate towards the right, and this is why I like Urantia Book crowds. One such being Alfred Weber, who I invited on a forum I don't know, way back in like early 2000s and he writes a book about EXO politics, and he's very much a Urantia book, I don't know, student, advocate, believer, what have you.

Anyway, this last month, he looked at and Charlotte, I think of you because of your question last week, asking what the cabal is. And they get to the point the subject matter that Alfred was presenting, what is the relationship between the word Maga and the Church of Satan being the fifth, I don't know, fifth tier, what have you? Fifth Level of the most adepts of that church reach a level called Maga. And Alfred's claim was that someone like Trump knows that relationship. So that's just to be fair and break the spell. Because what ends up happening is we all fall into some sort of Plinko the world's kind of designed to put us left or right, and some of the service we can do to for each other is to help each other break these spells and continually renew our dedication to God. And so, we renew our service to creating Lightlines and missions, and serving something like the Magisterial Foundation, so that things like the Magisterial Missions can happen through these Paradise Sons called the Avonal Sons. And that the Regency has a flavor and character, not unlike Psalms 46. That peace shall reign, and our spell bound minds will be silent, and we will know God.

So at this point, we'll we can open it up to questions. You can press five-star. A lot of these times, a simple question could mean to be, what did you mean by this or that when you said this or that? Or what does this mean is a good question. I know Arthura talked about words yesterday. I looked a little bit more into those words, and I really ended up liking the word archcremental. And I believe the missions would be archcremental. To clarify the meaning of evil, we have, in a sense, scientifically figured out why Germany followed the Nazis in so much evil, for example, in the what the Milgram experiments is that when people are just doing their job.

But another thing about evil is that people are told to do something, some small thing, by someone in authority, and authority, together with some sort of small increment of a job, will bypass Critical Thinking of whether something was, is, evil or harmful. And that's what those Milgram experiments did, as a person in a lab coat instructed the person in front of them to shock the person in the next room who they couldn't see, if that person got the answer wrong. And eventually, within five minutes, people were administrating lethal doses of electric shock. And before that experiment started, the science hypothesized that a large but not unanimous segment, maybe 15-25% of people would end up giving a lethal dose. It turned out to be nearly 100%.

So, that's just one insight into evil that it is often incremental and involves authority. Now, some of the words around incremental is the root word or root cremate, C, R, E, M, E, N, T, and apparently that means both the quality of something and the quantity of something. So, we have increment, and then we have a word called decrement. Interestingly, we have a sacrament, and the worst of the worst of rebels, like the cryolites, do the opposite and inverted of a sacrament, and they actually use excrement. They're bastards. I'm not endorsing anything about them, but that's an example of the rituals they use to desecrate and mock our Lord when you go down that path fully into being an acolyte of the rebel.

So back to the words, even if you break creement down into just meant M, E, N, T, that could be a noun or a verb, and it also relates to action, result and process. So, be aware now of all the words that have meant in them, and that is the mind, but also how the mind is the first act before something actually manifests, in terms of both your actions and something that happens in the world. And so anyway, the suffix that you add -al, so increment-al, ment-al if you add al. Al also means relating to or characterized by an action or process. So those are just interesting things to think about.

So, another word that Arthura used was comcremental, and so that would be kind of a joining together, whereas discremental would be going apart. And as far as I can tell, those three words would be new words in the English language, archemental, concremental and discremental.

So that's pretty much the end of the Lightline. If there are any questions, or if anyone would like to transmit, we're on press five star. Charlotte, you came in late. We talked about Christ consciousness, and we quoted Psalms 46, Matthew 7:21-23, 2 Corinthians 11:2-4, and Galatians 1:6-7. And we related the New Thought type of religion to a Christ consciousness that the Democrats of the left seem to be embracing, which fits with a post-modernist view and also why it would be more allied with Islam, because Islam treats Jesus as an Ascended Master.

So that's not necessarily New Thought, wouldn't necessarily be the same as Islam, but they could ally in that they would both be allied in their in the benefit of their political alliance in relegating Christ to an Ascended Master. And then, to be fair, we talked about, if you're a spellbound or into the right, I think Alfred Weber not only talked about Maga, but that the generals who, I think his claim was that the generals who support Maga are linked to generals in the United States Army, which should be totally understood in its postmodern approach. Legally recognizes the Church of Satan as a valid religion in the United States Army,

And that we talked about in past Lightlines, I don't think they were recorded. Some of this cabal, when it comes down to earth, is related to how to weaponize an egregore which was kind of a humanized and made to be something good in like the movie Men Who Stare at Goats, but those are the generals who were cited as LaVey and Aquino. Those are Church of Satan founders, for example, and that would be in the military, but that would be also related to, again, what I've talked about in the past, some of the elite remote viewing units would be related to this, and some of those graduates clearly espouse a new thought interpretation of the Bible and Christ. It's clear as day once you start to understand this kind of stuff at a large level. So, I hope that all helps and have a good day. Bye.

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Re: Tues LL 08.27.24 Distinctions in Christ Consciousness
« Reply #4 on: August 29, 2024, 21:32:32 pm »
This Tuesday Lightline revealed a concept that ignited much thought in me over the years, the forthcoming of the true ‘false’ religion, that New Though, during the time of the tribulation on earth (call it earth changes), during the time of the antichrist. I am not suggesting that one person will come forth as such, in spite of the endless speculations who might it be, besides many signs and clues given to identify him. Apart from all that however, I am now referring to the scripture that says there are many antichrists in the world today, which is the majority of all the earth population by definition of being in Christ. Same as it was over 2,000 years ago when this word came forth through Apostle John.  

What is called false religion? We can simply say, what is not true is false, right? Since Jesus Christ - as he had proclaimed and also Apostle Andrew just urged us to always remember it - Christ Jesus IS the Truth, the Way and the Life. That means if Jesus is not the center of our religion, if we would have no Christ consciousness WITHIN, or if we chose to compromise to go sideways a little beside the strictly conservative notion that Christ is all, which nowadays is highly criticized and condemned, we are at danger of promoting false religion while claiming to be Christians, claiming to be in Christ, if we live by some worldly standards as most of the Christians do today. If it would not be the case, this world would already have the Kingdom of God established on Urantia, by and through believers in Christ, for in him (Father, Christ Michel, and Jesus Christ as One) should we move, live, and have our BEING.

So, importantly not only knowing of, but also being IN, doing and loving as Christ, to walk the walk and not just talk the talk. IN HIM, as part of him, as one of his cell in his body, we follow (copy, multiply) him, and be like him by the power of God, and not the power or self or the power of the whole universe (which in fact Father, but in that scenario going unrecognized), or by any thought or experience, or imagination, but by true Christ Conscious Spirit. The Truth is, he is The Truth, and apart from him we can do nothing. And this is the answer to the fact that we have yet accomplished little to nothing for the Kingdom's sake, other than always should love our neighbors as ourselves. So, we can build the kingdom daily in our direct environment, and again, if all the billions of church members done that the Kingdom of God would already be on earth. Importantly, while many people are doing nothing but good, even sacrificially, this unity consciousness is still missing, which has the power to turn the world right-side up, but not without facing the resistance of the dark ones.

We were also advised that Jesus NEVER looked at anyone’s religion or origin (that includes all types of manifestations of a person based on ethnicity and culture), therefore, he never caused division into many factions but united all who listened into one. The current estimated 45,000 Christian denominations in the world fall so short on this unity Christ consciousness, thus it lost its power as a whole due to fragmentation, individualism, headiness, and egocentricity. But is that false religion? Anything other than true Christ consciousness is not from Father, for it is not representing him in a manner that he would be glorified, that people would be helped and blessed, thus should also be considered false, regardless of its doctrinal identity.

Unlike Dominick, I spent over two decades with bible studies and with trying to interpret and understand prophetic messages, whereby Christian interpreters believe in the coming of a new form of religion that would become mandatory to join for one’s social acceptance. Needless to say, the liberalistic approach of Christ consciousness where practically anything goes, literally will ease into this new false religion, promoting the New Thought without the awareness of the already lukewarm and compromised members. It is already in operation with the widespread prosperity gospel. Who will tell the difference? The only obvious distinguishing factor will be - if this ever comes to pass, but the religious concept of indifference already exist - that the worship and church services will move to Saturday as it has been in biblical times, and so most Christians will not have an objection, or option in compliance with the law passed at the time, otherwise will be labeled a rebel and enemy of the state. This will flow into the New Thought that Dominick so brilliantly described, without many realizing its deceptive nature.

The fundamental difference between true and false Christianity is and ever will be, is the manifestation of the power of God. As Dominick pointed out, that is the divine inherent power, now weakly expressed through some without the deep relationship with CHRIST and the Spirit of God, with all due respect for the exceptions. Those therefore has no concept of submitting to the Father’s will, has no community consciousness, rather promoting universal freedom of existence on higher dimensions, greater resonance frequencies and higher energy levels of divine illumination in their new realities. And it is so. All due recognition to those who could break free from the material realm to soar in the realms of the spirit.

If you want to see the perfect example of such divine manifestation, you may want to take a look at Alysa Rohston, whom I adore for her ability to embrace such gift of the universe, which made her a sought out spiritual light versus the very sickly overweight human being she was at her young age with multiple severe illnesses, diseases, and intake of over 20 prescribed pills daily. She had her out of body experience to transform into this wonderful heavenly messenger she is, so full of joy and light. And that is just one example I have encountered lately, but there are many light workers who has the capacity to embrace Christ consciousness, but as if there would be another way around, yet traversing in the universe. They are one embrace away from becoming aware of whom they really are, and it was not their conscious choosing to approach the Way though such experiences. I believe they are ascending to this station in Christ.

So, these new age believers have the capacity to finally learn the Way, the Truth, and the Life, and adjust their believes and service to the ways of our Father, as opposed to serving humanity based on their own understanding which really leads nowhere, because it is built on lack of understanding (false information). They promote individual elevation of soul and consciousness to know the divine ‘higher self’ and that is commendable, but ignore the current times and seasons as if one could elevate self out from this world by human will, using divine energy. Until things are going relatively smooth as they go now, even if we do not necessarily agree with everything that is around us, this approach seems positive and desirable. Yet it is not ready to face the reality of physical and spiritual affliction due to earthly circumstances in the power of the spirit of antichrist. Again, that is everything against Christ’s divine authority and willful submission to his will. Thus, the antichrist is not necessarily a person.

That spirit has already overtaken the earth for the most part, and there are small groups of people scattered around who are willing to give their all for the Father’s Kingdom to come, and his will be done on earth as it is in heaven. And this is the distinguishing factor between fighting for the right cause or representing some unreality that will not be able to stand the test of time. In contrast, we are looking at confused Christianity, whereas, I am afraid, many will continue to be led astray by deception as so many different ways have already happened.

Dominick precisely pointed out this difference by recognizing the new thought of easy life without paying the price, but we all know that it is not a universal law. But what you sow is what you reap as Jesus taught us, and so much more than that. So, we must be very rooted in his doctrine to recognize the deception and mellowed down truth, which therefore becomes untrue as morphing in the process. The analogy given is recognizing the genuine dollar bill versus counterfeit. One only needs to be completely familiar with the original to immediately spot out the fake one.

Thank you, Dominick, and thank all of you who is taking the time to meditate over these words and thoughts. Not necessarily to agree, but to be able to have a healthy argument within, if needed, against the tricks of the enemy, and to develop a solid foundation in Christ for the times ahead. It is not by a mare accident that Europe has been flooded by unlawful Islamic immigrants for reason of this New Thought religion, aka one world religion under new world order and one world government. Just landed on articles at muckraker .com, revealing that the same is happening in our backyards, for neither it is an accident to insist keeping those borders broken down. Although the plots of the elite against humanity was delayed and halted greatly and may never come to full power, I hear little bits and pieces through Lightlines that are foretelling its coming, at least to a certain extent. The world will have to choose Father by free will through tribulation, but for us IN Christ who already made that choice is the manifestation of the power of God under the banner of divine missions to Urantia. So, we should never fear just praise and worship Father; but get ready to proclaim the Truth and cast down that New Thought, being the new seed of deception. And as Jesus Christ told us yesterday (Monday LL), we are responsible for knowing the gospel.    
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Re: Tues LL 08.27.24 Distinctions in Christ Consciousness
« Reply #5 on: August 30, 2024, 09:19:20 am »
Dear Father, I wish to post.  If we can co-create a post good enough.

Thank you Dominick, thank you SonsofGod, for these words that cause us to think, reflect, and wonder.

I sense we are ready to move beyond words, beyond even actions that are well meant, but lack true Spirit Inspirations.  And so these conversations motivate us to do and be more.  To be real Sons and Daughters of God.

How can we move and breath in the Spirit, every day, every minute of this precious life while we are still here?  How can we put the Truths we know to work, and really feel moved "in the Holy Spirit"?  How can we feel a true partnership with our beloved TA?  

How do we sense and acknowledge the "Spirit of Truth"?  How can we get out of just mumbling the words of truth, and instead really feel the same "profound sense of spiritual joy, security, and confidence" that the Apostles felt when the "Spirit of Truth" descended upon them after Jesus had already ascended into Heaven?

We will not give up trying until these fruits of the Spirit are manifest in our lives.

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Re: Tues LL 08.27.24 Distinctions in Christ Consciousness
« Reply #6 on: August 30, 2024, 15:00:25 pm »
Those are beautiful words of commitment, P Jammer. While you were questioning you have answered your question, the way I see it. Just as the Spirit of God came upon the apostles, so it shell come upon us when it's time, if our commitment is as real as you have cried out. We cannot add to it more than our free will offering to hear and obey, but the power of God is strictly coming from Father by the Grace of God when he says, now is the time, empowering us to be more like him without compromise. It is by the power of our Father God through our cooperation that we are becoming his arms, legs and mouthpieces. It is a process. We should seek him daily with knowing his plans for our life, being his sons. 

I was waiting for these days, for all my Christian life as we all do, believing in the 'suddenly'. Father Michael referred to the 'suddenly' in a Lightline about two weeks ago. That will be our Pentecost. Dates may change but we are fast approaching the changes coming upon the earth, and after that it will come, I believe. Apostle Paul described it as the fullness of Christ at the time of Jesus' rule and reign, where we, as part of his body rule and reign with him in our assigned territories, but this has a bad taste now based on how this authority was abused so far. Ruling really means loving as only God can love. It is a beautiful promise. Isaiah described it as receiving the seven spirits of God, which is the fullness. However, before we could claim to represent our Holy Father we need to get purified one more time, as silver and gold is purified by fire. When the gold is melted (may represent our hearts in the midst of earth changes and natural disasters) the impurities in the gold will come upon the top and get skimmed off by the master jewelry maker. We are his workmanship likewise. It will come in God's timing, so that you may hear "Arise and shine, the glory of the Lord has risen upon you", This also means, we have no glory; we can only reflect who he is. 

I received the proof of it that I will share, an experience I had many years ago when I was working in a ministry practically overtime every day. I did not feel tired but one day became mean spirited. I could not extend care and love to the people who came late and wanted me to bend the rules for them. Mercy would do that, but it made me rather irritated instead, and this was going on for three days straight. Then I broke down crying and told the Lord that no matter how hard I try, I cannot be loving and kind, I am sorry, please forgive me! Then he answered and said, "I did it to show you that apart from me you can't do NOTHING. Which part of the nothing you don't understand? This ministered to me very greatly and I will never forget it. 

We strive, and we should do our best, yes, but only with understanding the Source of our existence even for the next breath, and the condition of our being, good or bad. We repent, start a new, try even harder, all is needed, but we have been tested and tried also on purpose, and it did not come easy. I know I failed over and over to be even my best, much less resembling God, but applying what Jesus said to me, did he not permitted it to happen? Yes, he did, he even caused it to humble me some more. And to see the secret parts of my heart, our hearts, how are we going to respond to bad situations? Are we still thanking him and praise him for what is left of us (nothing) or turn against or walk away from God? So, we can say, our bad experiences and longing make us. 

Job lost truly everything and insisted that although he wished he had not conceived in his mother's womb; he will see God on the last day! He knew he was accepted and loved, and innocent. Job was renown and well respected in the land for his goodness and generosity towards his servants and the poor and needy. A beautiful testimony of faith and trust no matter what, and we are always reminded to be like Job to our neighbors. Now I am not comparing ourselves to Job's greatness or Ron's, but Father always gives us the opportunity to please him. He will accomplish his will through us as long as we are willing to work it out with him. 

I share this scripture that was presented to me this morning through a channel I love to watch. Jeremiah 17:7-8 says, "...blessed is the one who trusts in the Lordwhose confidence is in him. They will be like a tree planted by the water that sends out its roots by the stream. It does not fear when heat comes; its leaves are always green. It has no worries in a year of drought and never fails to bear fruit.” Amazingly, as I just finished writing this post, I turned on my phone where the YouTube app was open, and a video came on. The speaker momentarily started to pray for the fullness and to Father to fill us. Then she mentioned Job, and I hear this message of hers for the first time, totally unexpected to hear it, but serves as confirmation. All Glory be to God. 
"See what great love the Father has lavished on us, that we should be called the sons of God!" 
"For in him we live, and move, and have our being;"
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« Reply #7 on: September 02, 2024, 22:48:41 pm »
God Bless,

Amen