Antichrist

[Clency]

In Christian eschatology, Antichrist refers to a kind of person prophesied by the Bible to oppose Jesus Christ and falsely substitute themselves as a savior in Christ's place before the Second Coming. (Wikipedia)

It seems that the new elected US president, during his investiture, fails to put his right hand on the Bible with the promises to serve the people and his country, but there are those who go with the idea that this oversight, from someone who is on his second mandate, is voluntary and that the antichrist has shown up his true identity. Where there is falsehood, there must be truthfulness as a counterpart, so assuming that the antichrist is already among us, the Second Return is not far away, so be it.

[ur606]

I agree totally.

[Dominick O]

I fail to see the usefulness in this observation. If he placed his hand on the bible it just feeds the conspiracy that he's a white nationalist nazi. So either way, he's fits your antichrist. Meanwhile the people who voted him feel they voted against antichrist-like polices of the previous administration, whose policies are globalist, and not native to the United States.

[Dominick O]

Alfred Webre speculates Trump's MAGA corresponds to the highest levels of the satanic church.

If you look at the way the satanic church operates, it runs like a de-centralized terrorist organization, except it's goals are different than terror, and more like The Great Work (of Rebellion).

Would you guys support a candidate for office who had a policy platform of revoking state-recognized religious and church status? Revoke 501c3 status for their organizations and in the Federal Gov and Military? Might as well revoke scientology, too.

It would be interesting to see who opposed that.

[Dominick O]

How do you sue a Sith Lord? You can't, you don't even know who to sue. The organization is secret and de-centralized.

Satanic church principles are anathema
to civic governance and ultimately based in super-human intelligence. Devoid of Deity connection and founded in principles of Deity blasphemy. And damning to the ideals of ideal democratic governance.

[ur606]

The way religions have misused the 501c3, I say revoke them all.

[PJammer]

Well, since this thread appears to be highly speculative, I will add to the speculation.

When I was twenty years old (long time ago), due to my fortunate discovery of The Urantia Book I had become a very spiritually motivated man.  In my studies, the Holy Spirit (TA?) inspired and directed me to study the writings of a man, a preacher in the Evangelical tradition named Neil Frisby.

Here is a reference to what Neil Frisby said about Donald Trump (I believe circa 1970-80s):

https://www.horemowna.org/daily-devotional/probable-role-of-president-trump-in-gods-end-time-plan-part-1

[Dominick O]

In light of the latest reporting by Candace Owens about Macron. You might be better off focusing your attention on your own country's antichrist influences and leave the hyperbolic speculation about our country to yourself for now.

[Clency]

Surely, Macron is not better than your US president, dear Dom, but let me tell you that I don't see any country with a respectable or high governance around the world. For sure, the only ONE that can bring solace and peace of mind is the long awaiting time of the Second Return as you are aware, but for now we have to do with the bad and the ugly, wherever it may be.

[Raz]

I agree that putting his hand on the bible, or not doing so; while interesting doesn't really tell us much of anything about why he didn't. But Dominick, you state that people voted for him due to concerns about globalism.

I thought The Urantia Book tells us we need to be working towards world government which seems to be what globalism could be directing us towards. To confirm I checked with the two ai bots that focus on The Urantia Book and asked 'is globalism good or bad'.  Both websites gave nuanced answers which is to be expected from such a question. The answer from Yoam.life, which is still in the testing phase, was quite thorough and lengthy. AskJesus.chatbot.com gave a shorter answer of:

 "Your question about globalism touches on important themes of unity, peace, and the brotherhood of humanity, which are central to my teachings.
In the context of the Urantia Book, globalism can be seen as a step towards realizing a world where nations work together for the common good of all people. It emphasizes the idea that we are all part of one human family, and that cooperation among nations can lead to lasting peace and understanding.
However, it is essential to approach globalism with love and respect for individual cultures and identities. The goal should be to foster a sense of unity without losing the richness that diversity brings to our world. True globalism promotes goodwill, compassion, and the sharing of resources, ensuring that all individuals can thrive together.
In summary, globalism, when rooted in love and brotherhood, can be a positive force for humanity, helping us to overcome the divisions that often lead to conflict. It is a call to recognize our shared humanity and to work together for a peaceful and harmonious world."

My question is what do others of you think? Is globalism good or bad?

Raz

[Dominick O]

The reply from the chatbot is a mealy-mouthed, DEI-biased answer because it doesn't recognize the realities of the world or the plans of the globalist ideologies that are a) competing amongst each other, and b) have their own legacies of planetary rebellion and godless versions of what is good for you and me. Policies of a Communist pig with the lipstick of compassion, but what the policies are after is equity for their Faction or Committee.

The chatbot answer garners umbrage when masquerading as Jesus.
Where's the mention of the Fatherhood of God that every ideal in that answer is predicated on according to when Jesus was actually here and teaching-preaching?

What good is globalism when it turns the citizen into a compliant slave to be isolated through digital social credit system locking you out from all forms of human activities for being bad in the eyes of the State? That's what China has, and it competes with the world to make it so.

There must be some modicum of freedom, and that's through at least retaining paper cash and coinage. Some form of exchange not totally informed by a government. Same with identity. The common denominator of the Trump Admin is the usual suspects of Wall Street (and now Blackrock) who are advocating digital fiat and digital ID, and right now it's only "populism" in the way of checking the domination of our lives through digital conveniences. This struggle is being framed recently in France during the AI Security Conference. for example, where the US and EU differ in attitude. Thought crime for lunch and dinner, anyone?

[PJammer]

Globalism, Capitalism, Socialism, Communism.  Does is really matter?

If our Leaders Hearts are not like our Father's Heart, all systems will fail.

Today's Globalists, do not have our Father's Heart.

PJammer

[Dominick O]

yes, it does matter. Raz is referring to the evolution of global perspective and exchange. Travel, technology, increasing social organizations from family > tribe > nation > state > national blocs of states > global standards laws > and courts and enforcement, etc.

The isms are different modes of that evolution. Some more than others, but roots of communist-marxist ideologies are fundamentally unpeaceful because they are born of Lucifer's rebellion. Not only missing our Father's heart but willing to destroy it. You and I are worthless in its gaze.

[PJammer]

Well, one could say Jesus organized his apostles in a communal way.  

But Jesus most certainly had our Father's Heart.

[Dominick O]

Now that I have the TXT file of the Urantia Book within a Project silo of my ChatGPT4o, I can query your statement and we can both benefit from an analysis solely based on the Urantia Book.

Are there any examples of Jesus discussing Communism? Capitalism?



Jesus did not explicitly endorse or condemn economic systems like Communism or Capitalism, but his teachings offer insights on wealth, property, and social justice.
Jesus and Communism

• The Urantia Book notes the flaws of early communism, stating that it led to a system where the improvident lived off the thrifty and ultimately collapsed due to the deceptive practices of individuals who sought to escape enslavement to the idleUF-ENG-001-1955-1.22.
• It also notes that Jesus never instructed his followers to adopt a communal lifestyle, even though his apostles shared all things in common. Instead, he left economic decisions up to individual choiceUF-ENG-001-1955-1.22.

Jesus and Capitalism

• Jesus never preached against wealth itself but warned against the dangers of material devotion over spiritual values. He often emphasized that spiritual progress should come before economic concernsUF-ENG-001-1955-1.22.
• He acknowledged the legitimacy of wealth accumulation, provided it was earned fairly and not used for exploitationUF-ENG-001-1955-1.22.
• He also condemned the unfair exploitation of the weak and emphasized the importance of generosityUF-ENG-001-1955-1.22.

General Economic Views

• Jesus' primary concern was spiritual growth, rather than economic reforms. He acknowledged the unequal distribution of wealth but did not propose specific economic remediesUF-ENG-001-1955-1.22.
• He encouraged wise investment as a form of security against future adversityUF-ENG-001-1955-1.22.
• While he recognized the necessity of social justice and industrial fairness, he did not dictate specific policies, instead emphasizing the need for individuals to develop their inner spiritual lives to become more competent in solving their own social and economic problemsUF-ENG-001-1955-1.22.

Conclusion
Jesus' teachings focus on spiritual integrity over economic structures. He neither supported state-imposed communism nor unfettered capitalism but advocated ethical responsibility in wealth management, charity, and fairness. His economic views revolved around personal accountability and moral stewardship rather than systemic economic policies.