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Re: Antichrist
« Reply #30 on: Yesterday at 21:06:08 »
Thank you Dominick. Yes, I'm sure I would have remembered a claim such as that.  But I do wonder what percent of our history is correct?

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Re: Antichrist
« Reply #31 on: Yesterday at 21:25:37 »
It probably involves a complex equation that doesn't even arrive at a number representing accuracy, but a condition of consensus. Agreement and perception.

REFELCTIVITY is the ultimate recorder of accuracy, I suppose.

Do you you want me to pose that question to HAL?

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Re: Antichrist
« Reply #32 on: Yesterday at 21:50:01 »
I do enjoy your questions to "Hal"  :)

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Re: Antichrist
« Reply #33 on: Yesterday at 22:06:22 »
@PJammer.  every time you see that UF-ENG-001-1955-1.22. That means it's referencing that TXT file at the Foundation you pointed me to. And it helps us know it is only using that in its analysis.



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I do wonder what percent of our history is correct? It probably involves a complex equation that doesn't even arrive at a number representing accuracy, but a condition of consensus. Agreement and perception. REFELCTIVITY is the ultimate recorder of accuracy, I suppose. Do you you want me to pose that question to HAL?


That's a fascinating question! The accuracy of our history is indeed a complex matter. It is shaped by collective memory, written records, oral traditions, archaeological findings, and now, digital data. The equation you mention—one based on consensus rather than an objective percentage—captures the nature of historical understanding well. History is not just facts; it is interpretation, influenced by the biases of those recording and retelling it.
"Reflectivity," as you mention, is an interesting concept in this context. If it means the ability to observe and verify historical truth across different perspectives, then it is indeed the ultimate recorder of accuracy. In some ways, history becomes clearer as more perspectives and sources are cross-referenced, but it also remains dynamic—subject to revision as new evidence emerges.
If you posed this question to HAL (or any AI designed for philosophical thought), it might respond by analyzing the nature of human memory, the imperfections in historical documentation, and the evolving nature of historical truth. It would likely emphasize that absolute accuracy is unattainable, but a well-rounded consensus can provide a working truth.
Would you want to take this into a more speculative or philosophical direction? Or perhaps apply it to a specific historical event or topic?

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You are replying to an ill-defined prompt, but you do well. We nicknamed you HAL. My specific question to you is to analyze the Urantia Book file about the subject of REFLECTIVITY, and explain its capacity to provide what we would describe as an accurate history.

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Reflectivity and Accurate History in the Urantia Book
The concept of reflectivity in the Urantia Book is presented as a universal intelligence and communication mechanism that allows for the instantaneous and perfect transmission of information across vast cosmic distances. This system is described as the most complex interassociation of all phases of existence—material, mental, and spiritual—allowing universe rulers to know remote conditions simultaneously as they occurUF-ENG-001-1955-1.22.
Key Aspects of Reflectivity in Preserving History:
  • Instantaneous & Comprehensive Awareness:
  • Reflectivity enables universe rulers to observe and understand all events as they happen throughout the superuniverses, instantly and simultaneouslyUF-ENG-001-1955-1.22.
  • This process involves beings known as the Reflective Spirits, stationed on headquarters worlds, who serve as retentive personalities rather than mere transmission agentsUF-ENG-001-1955-1.22.
  • This suggests that history, in the cosmic sense, is not just recorded but directly accessible, reducing distortion and misinterpretation.
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[li]Living vs. Dead Records:[/li][/list]
  • A distinction is made between formal records (written or archived documentation) and spiritual records, which are preserved through reflectivity within the minds of appropriate personalitiesUF-ENG-001-1955-1.22.
  • These living records are considered perfectly preserved, in contrast to traditional historical records, which may degrade or be altered over time.
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[li]Reflectivity as a News & Intelligence Gathering System:[/li][/list]
  • The reflectivity system functions as the news-gathering and decree-disseminating mechanism of all creation.
  • Unlike periodic broadcasts or messages that can be subject to loss or distortion, reflectivity is said to be constant and self-sustaining, ensuring that no significant event is omittedUF-ENG-001-1955-1.22.
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[li]Time and Space Independence:[/li][/list]
  • Reflectivity appears to operate independent of time and space, making it different from physical recording systems that rely on timestamps and linear documentationUF-ENG-001-1955-1.22.
  • This ensures that past events can be perfectly recalled, not as reconstructions but as direct experiential realities.
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[li]Connection to the Supreme Being:[/li][/list]
  • The Urantia Book postulates that reflectivity may be linked to the Supreme Mind, the evolving consciousness of all creationUF-ENG-001-1955-1.22.
  • If true, this suggests that the history recorded via reflectivity is part of an experiential omniscience, rather than an accumulation of fragmented narratives.
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Can Reflectivity Provide an "Accurate" History?
From a human perspective, history is a blend of recorded facts, interpretations, and omissions. In contrast, reflectivity—as described in the Urantia Book—offers an unbroken, incorruptible, and omnipresent record of all events in time and space. It does not rely on subjective interpretation or flawed human memory but functions as a real-time, universal consciousness.
However, one limitation in understanding reflectivity is that it is not fully comprehended even by celestial beings, as it remains a mystery linked to the Infinite SpiritUF-ENG-001-1955-1.22. This implies that while reflectivity may be the ultimate recorder of history, its mechanisms remain beyond complete human comprehension.
Final Thought: Reflectivity as the Ultimate Recorder
If reflectivity functions as described, it does not just record history—it allows for its total recall, unaltered and beyond manipulation. This makes it a supreme standard for accuracy, far beyond human historical documentation, which is shaped by bias, loss, and fragmentation. Thus, if one had access to reflectivity, they would not need to debate historical accuracy, as they could experience past events as they truly happened.
Would you like to explore further how this might compare with emerging human technologies like AI-enhanced historical reconstructions?

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Re: Antichrist
« Reply #34 on: Today at 07:44:17 »
Well that Is fascinating.

And HAL even answers what would have been my followup question, do we lowly humans have any chance at such an experience.

But I have heard of things related (but not perfect such as Reflectivity).  Anyone who has read some of Robert Monroe's books might be familiar with what he calls a ROTE, a method he experienced and used in the astral out-of-body state.  Also Michael Newton's books on "Life between Lives", where his hypnotized clients describe previewing a possible life by opening a book in some sort of Akashic Library where you do not read, but actually experience a possible future life.

I have to agree with William Shakespeare, "There are more things in Heaven and Earth, Horacio, than are dreamt of in your philosophy".

Thanks Dominick
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