Sue this is quite an exposition on the tof removing the failed spiritual assent and depersonalizing the Adjuster's former human ward or other style of ascending entity.
Your Adjuster is making it clear it is essentially an act of mercy to remove the failed attempt for spiritualization and to accrue to the work of the Father. But you, I think, have sent a thought wave up that should be examined and corrected to some extent. I do not impune you or the Thought Adjuster or others speaking through you in this case. For instance you write:
Sue: "Sue this is your Eternal Self here, I have to add to that to what Father is speaking to in regards to the Universal Life everywhere, it means the Finaliters are fully Trinitized and they work not only as Cosmic Citizens but as Paradise Trinity Entities. . . . "
Ron here: The Finaliter spiritual status, Sue, is not Trinitized. To be Trinitized means something else in spite of the Finaliter taking an Oath to serve the Trinity. Trinitized ascenders become Mighty Messengers and a lot of other things, and while they were first Finaliters, the Trinity embraced them (trinitized them), and they become a variation on Thought Adjuster premiership as something other than an instrument of Ultimacy. That sounds like gibberish if you do not understand that the FINALITER is designed to serve some return back into time and space for now, but His future as a Finaliter, is to serve in the development of the idea of ULTIMACY and not of the old idea of Supremacy
I am making the complaint that words matter. Finaliters are not Trinitized as a Mighty Messenger or One Without Name and Number or One in High Authority result as being Finaliters first and then Trinitized, or Trinity embraced, to become Son of the Trinity Attainment values.
Lastly, life extinction and depersonalization are not synonymous. What happens to life extinction when it has to be done, is that such an entity record is wiped off the archives of GRANDFONDA permanently. In depersonalization, the subject of individuality is cancelled and such an entity who is depersonalized is no longer "A WHO", but a "what or which." The Lucifer rebellion lost ten million seraphim by depersonalization. After the adjudication, most were repersonalized, and they have become, again, the center of the awful insurrection occurring in the Local Universe of Nebadon and related areas of space in the time zone.
I am being fed new statistics too over why depersonalization of many of these seraphic hosts is taking place again, as the Universal Father has determined that the entire matter of depersonalization IS INSUFFICIENT to maintain a balance of thought and actual Master Universe deeds done to revive the Master Universe toward its eventual goal of Infinity and its perfection. For the reason everybody and Sue listen to this:
Yesterday (July 12th), I had a long conversation with CONSUMMATOR (5) and for that reason I was seriously informed that the entire matter of ASCENSION is now on the table for a complete and total revision. This is so important, as it relates to the subject of extinction first, and depersonalization second, that I put a separate title on it as follows:
ASCENSION CAREERS TO BE REVISE FULLY:
Those of you who have followed this response to this point need to put on your thinking hats now. For this reason:
The Universal Father has decreed that the ASCENSION CAREERS now undertaken on all of our mansion worlds, is entirely inadequate to form a Finaliter basis alone for the extension of spiritual values into what is now called the Outer Space Levels (OSL1, 2, 3, 4). HE states that an additional step shall be required for you and me and all others that upon becoming FINALITERS, we are to address the inadequacy of a true education as to what the meaning of GOD really is! What is the meaning of GOD? Most of you view it as a means to perfection and to serve as a perfected spirit someday.
I have done that myself. I am willing to be most of you see the spiritualization of yourselves as an amalgamation of your effort to perfect yourself in spirit as through the GOD standard. However:
GOD THE FATHER says that is inadequate. That is not the perfection of spiritual attainment ever or at all! Then, HE asks, what is it so many are missing before they become Finaliters?
The answer, HE says, is this: Pre-Finaliters need a thorough life to be lived in the abject poverty of useless provision of wealth and greatness (status seeking) as things the Finaliter had to learn to want and then to discard, and to be discarded so that the entire matter of wants are relegated to a useless provision for the imperfect soul. To do that to each of you before you become Finaliters requires AN ADDITIONAL ASCENSION STEP.
FATHER did not speak to me about that additional step process at all, and I did not ask come to think of it, but what should be added by FATHER'S example we do not include in our ascension careers he would add to it? [Ron side thought: I think this going to be added now lucky you!]
"I think you should hear ME, Ron. I am now speaking through Ron this morning to elucidate this arrival of new thought even he has a problem dealing with. The additional thought that must be added to the ASCENSION career should be something like this:
"Man is too quick to assume if he follows a course of action it results in reward. WE ARE GOING TO STOP THAT! Ron Besser is one of the few humans on this planet to have perpetually failed at finalizing his life with terms of the endowment of the spirit being fully employed without personal reward. He could care less if he gets a reward or not, and for that reason he fully exhumes the spiritual idea of reward for effort. He fully discards the idea that man is good at heart, and lives life for them anyhow, and requires nothing for you or him without being sure it pleases his Master, Michael of Nebadon. For that reason Michael is trying to avoid confusion for all of this effort and insists he must deliver himself first, and then we as spirit deliver him further. That happens to hit a vary painful subject and is boiling again today; however the point to be made is that MAN ALLOWS TOO MUCH THOUGHT and not ENOUGH ACTION, for his spiritual career to mean much to Us (Spirit), and for that reason most Finaliters work anonymously in spite of their great achievements.
"FATHER wishes to insist that each ASCENDER become fully anesthetized to status or implication of severing all earth times as relegated to the past. Ron insists on memory to continue to supply him his lessons and/or his triumphs. He cares for them as much as what he has to do today and likens them as his children to always review again for their lessons. For that reason Ron has been granted supreme importance on Urantia to get things done no one else ever thought to ask a human to do ever before.
"Consequently, by this example, and by other examples unknown to any of you yet, the entire matter of your Ascension Careers is reviewed with you today, and you will understand what you must enter to become a perfect soul, (Be you Perfect as I am Perfect), and that starts with his Urantia MISSION. From now on, you are required to pray for yourselves more often. You are asked to stand at attention when God enters the room you may be gathered in as an incarnated Son of God working on Urantia from Midwayers, to Melchizedeks, to Paradise Sons of God, and so on. And finally, Ron you are not delved out of thought or careless regard, but your mind revision is a failure by your own standards and it must revert to that which serves you best. For that reason we state this with regard to the exposition SUE GIVES ABOVE.
"SUE you bobble some of your transmission work as Ron points out because you insist on seeing to it that things are stated per your understanding. Ron is aware you lack a proper foundation quite often but stays quiet because you disfavor intellectual discourse, but my dear, you have to discourse the policies through the intellect and your stubborn view that your thought prevails better is simply not true. As a consequence we have to state that the concomitant view that Ron holds is sufficiently correct to restate some things you state as being dictation when in fact you force your views often upon the diction meanings themselves. We and also Ron do not want to disrupt this series of Lessons, but you need to clear your mind of control amd let the true speech develop in all cases.
"Further, Ron is of the opinion you come and go at your own leisure and that is his calling too, but that when you develop a series of Lessons like you are now doing, let the Lessons prevail as long as they dare, and then allow yourself to revise them with new Lessons to follow. You are not easily done on any of this as your upbringing is an ecclesial nightmare, and for that reason you shy words you were not allowed to develop concepts around as a youngster.
"We are quite sure that this revision to the ASCENSION career is almsot over for Ron, as he has developed all the tools we require for the new ascension career. However, he stubbornly refuses to enach a morontial favor to intellectual discours and insists that the entire matter of revelation must be kept in terms man understands on Urantia, and has revised his output to delay full understanding of epochal revelation in book form. He now favors epochal revelation to be revealed in science and industry and makes great advances to do it this wya entirely.
"For that reason his revision to his own ascension career is to include the matter of epochal revelation to a planet that has no regard to teachings about God, but regards God as too familiar without benefit and out God goes for that reason on Urantia.
"Finally, to you SUE in particular: look at how Ron responds to you here: He corrects a mild error in statement but hugely important to know why the Sue statement is egregious to millions of entities who are working as ONES WITHOUT NAME AND NUMBER as TRINITIZED SONS OF ATTAINMENT. That is the Urantia Book designation which you never read Sue. For reasons of State this post is fully declared moribund by you mostly but you are going to learn, probably the hard way, what to do when Australia hits the Divine Missions, now already operating and fully while Australia lament of it being too lame to understand why it has to heel under the yoke of a REGENCY. It is coming to your country too.
"WE are also sure that you Ron clear the worst of your problems very soon and wish you well without us for a moment or two as we learn to deal these things without you entirely looking us over as a jacquard of decision making losing the essence of our words. K" THE UNIVERSAL FATHER SPOKE.
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