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AUDIO TAPE Links - Comments - Schedule inside / Re: REsponse to Mrs. Piper Receiving Urantia Book outline form in 1903

« on: September 22, 2024, 09:43:15 am »

This is a beautiful masterpiece to display the old ways of publishing. Thank you so much for sharing, Occerpa. I enjoy listening to it through Microsoft Edge read aloud. I hope you will all check it out. Blessings and love 

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AUDIO TAPE Links - Comments - Schedule inside / Re: REsponse to Mrs. Piper Receiving Urantia Book outline form in 1903

« on: September 21, 2024, 08:51:17 am »

Thank you, Ron, for these amazing stories. They are reflecting strong on that even the greatest people in history had their daily struggles and strong personalities. I enjoyed reading it, expect what Caligastia said and done. Shame on him forever.
  
Thank Father Michael for allowing the revelation.
sonofGod 

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AUDIO TAPE Links - Comments - Schedule inside / Re: Tues LL 09.17.24 ARTHURA & Dominick: 19 & 20 century influence on today

« on: September 20, 2024, 23:04:09 pm »

Quote from the 09/17/24 Tuesday Lightline by Dominick:
“And Sadler picked up the manuscript from Piper, and we have the story and detail of that transmitted before, and maybe we can refer to that tape in this transcript. That would be nice.”
 
The following two transcripts were found:  
 
Sun LL 072323
 
Michael of Nabadon
You aren't historians. You are people who listen to the chief tell you you will know no history of what preceded The Urantia Book in the United States. Plenty. Plenty did. A woman by the name is Mrs. Piper in Boston received the outline and one snowy Christmas Eve Dr. Sadler was at her door. The doctor says to her, I am here by direction. Do you have something? Yes, she said. Mrs. Piper reached into her purse and handed him the outline of The Urantia Book. He took it to France, England and Belgium to study under Freud. Came back, established the practice, and not until 1922 did an Melchizedek show up in body, sit in front of his desk, ask him to sign a secrecy agreement, and told him just to wait until I can get back to you. In 1928 Machiventa Melchizedek got back to him in person. And the archangel Ryan stood above the heads of the Sadler contact commission and dictated into the atmosphere paper one, paper two and paper three all at one sitting. They didn't have tapes then. Christie took it down, as a good secretary. That's how it started folks. Ron has the history. He will not write it until those false historians are replaced with true historians. What a shame you don't know your history.
 
 
Sun LL 02.04.24
 
Michael of Nabadon
That is precisely it, Ron. In 1928, folks, those of you who don't know Machiventa Melchizedek appeared in the office of Dr. Sadler and Dr. Lena Sadler. It is William S. for the Sadler male component. They told him he was about to approach the presentation of the fifth Epochal Revelation to Urantia since the birth of Christ. Sadler said, well, isn't that dandy? I have the outline from Mrs. Piper of Boston. I picked (it) up on Christmas Eve 1904, which was the outline of the Urantia Book forwarded over by Imperator, the spirit guide to an English Rector.
 
The historians in the Urantia Foundation have yet to pick up the scent. Ron found it easily. The rector dictated the first three papers of the Urantia Book. That upset Lucifer so badly. He (the rector) was traveling in London and was on a horse-drawn bus. In those days, they were two tier and to get off at his stop he had to come down a series of steps. Ron knows they still do it that way. He lived it and worked in London. And for reasons of state let me tell you what really happened and the rector doesn't know all of it.
 
When he alighted out of his seat, he was riding on the top tier, which was open it was like a convertible. He came forward to go down the steps to alight at its next stop. When the horses stopped, the two front horses brought their forepaws off the street and the driver of the bus had to bring order and he insisted on pulling the reins. When he pulled the reins, the lead horse on the right, and its four horses on such a large carriage, stomped his feet and began to mule and that is to move back and forth under the yoke and try to pull loose.
 
What that was Ron was not Lucifer, but Caligastia trying to steady the bus enough so that when Stainton Moses alighted from the bus he would trip and fall. That's all Caligastia intended. But what happened? When Moses stepped from the bus onto the cobblestone of the London street in 1879 he fell, he tripped, and as it happened, a very large lorry approached the bus to its left and in the lane in which the rector stepped, it threw him under the lorry and crushed his right leg. He was done. Caligastia pulled it off more than he knew he did.
 
What happened next was that the rector was rushed to the hospital. The leg was reset, but he never recovered. Now he knew the preeminent transmitter of the day. I am holding that name back so you don't go looking. But she said to him, you need care. Stay in my rooms and I will have a doctor attend to you. He healed there. But one night, Caligastia slipped in and inserted what they did to Ron. It is a chemical into the blood system that destroys the blood cells and the cells in the legs.
 
That's what we're dealing with with Ron today. And it will end his life not. But we've got more complications coming. You on the Magisterial Foundation Board, have to understand it is very important, please, to stay the course. We're not going to reform it. The Magisterial Foundation has been gifted by Ron with an extremely valuable patent for free electricity. He also has the outline form of the Chronicles that is the life and times of a real return of Jesus to Urantia. Because I am cutting the Missions off, doesn't mean that Jesus is not returning.
 
 
There are some reference to the Urantia book here by Dr. Sadler and Archangel Ryan:
 
Tue Special LL 01.09.24 by Ron Besser
 
Michael of Nabadon
And finally this: you Ron are now speaking to the head of the Urantia Foundation and its trustees. We welcome you and thank you for your attention. This ability to communicate was never given to the Sadler's. The Sadlers heard it and could replicate in the office through Archangel Ryan. Ryan is a made-up name so that we may have an objective form to participate in their own hearing and know when they are called upon to respond and to whom they respond. I now produce a communication from Dr. Sadler.
 
Ron Besser  
Welcome Dr. Sadler. Go ahead as you please.
 
Dr. Sadler
Thank you, Ron. I'm pop, no one else knows that. And to you, the one listening from the Urantia Foundation: we welcome you and please use these communications as you may choose, there is no copyright. And finally this: my friends who are not listening and there are quite a number on this discussion forum cannot get the time to speak or listen to this particular Light Line. The tape will become available. It is copyright-free, use it as you choose. But it also contains an announcement of interest to every reader of the Fifth Epochal Revelation and those who will attend to future Epochal Revelation. We now provide the voice of Archangel Ryan.
 
Ron Besser
Thank you, Dr. Sadler.
 
Dr. Sadler
You're most welcome, Ron.
 
Archangel Ryan
This is Archangel Ryan. 
 
Ron Besser
We welcome you, Ryan. Please proceed.
 
Archangel Ryan
Thank you. I am the Archangel for your information that entered the tomb of Jesus as He lay lifeless in the tomb. Ron wrote a full chapter on it in a book called The Crown (The Crown, The Tomb, and The Coronation: The Imminent Return of Christ). The publisher somehow chose to issue it without editing. It caused a fury not only with the stores but also with the amazon.com where it was supposed to be sold. It is removed because it is trash, not. But because the editing was not done Ron has withdrawn it. But the first chapter of the Crown describes the awakening of Christ in the tomb. I dictated it to Ron. It's one of the most moving narratives I've ever read. Some day, you should all have a copy of it. Right now, it has been withdrawn because of the bad behavior of the publisher. (Actually, it is still available: $4 paperback & $5 hardback.)
 
Second, I am Archangel Ryan and I have little reserve of kindness for the type of bantering that goes on not only in the Urantia Foundation but in the Fellowship over our choice to establish a mission, a spirit mission to Urantia. Ron has seen to it that in spite of what you believe, you have the material. I have asked Ron to hold this Light Line so that I, Ryan the Archangel who presided with the Sadlers and dictated some of the material may be heard clearly. I am no longer particularly caring what the Urantia Foundation, the Fellowship, or other units of care for the Fifth Epochal Revelation are saying. Ron has to turn a deaf ear. He can't get his work done by listening and taking seriously some of the things being said.We are not chastising you who have joined here, you are totally innocent. However, please understand that we are going to face a storm of discussions once Jesus announces over a mass media satellite to your television and to certain radio stations the Second Return. Ron has already established that there is a person he wants to discuss this with on MSNBC. They are unusually frightened by the email that allowed the discussion to come to the point that there is an invasion of spirit to Urantia within the coming days of this month.
 
Please be advised all of you that I, Archangel Ryan will not be the spokesman but that we are asking Machiventa Melchizedek, Mantutia Melchizedek, and Manituba Melchizedek to become the spokesmen of any inquiries by the mass media, or by the Magisterial Sons, who also have a mission in the flesh in the coming two months. And finally this: the entire matter that we must attend to, is to make sure that all of you are well involved in becoming agents for the Regency.
 
You will learn as you go, that the Regency is the name of about a three-prong insertion of a spirit mission to Urantia. The first prong is the return of Jesus. The second prong is to reproduce the Sixth Epochal Revelation and the new biography of Jesus Christ. In a two-volume set, it should become available after the printing, which we think will be during March, May, and June of 2024. It's already on a data disk. Ron and his helpers must go through the pages to make sure there is no misprint of the page. And without going through spellcheck to make sure the alignment and text spacing is adequate. We are not about to tell you its appearance.
 
And this to you, Ron: you have been crippled by the insertion of drugs by the Creative Spirit. She then fled Nebadon. Strange as that may sound one must understand the insurrection of god the supreme. He attacked not only Nebadon but five other Local Universes in the area. The net result was to destroy her presence and that a new entity has been deitized to provide those supreme efforts that are essential to supreme acting adjusters and to other concerns of the tributes to the Paradise Trinity and to the triunities and the triodities. They have been revised. Everything in the list of the current Urantia Book regarding triunities is askew. The Sixth Epochal Revelation will rewrite those papers.
 
The Sixth Epochal Revelation will repeat the first 15 papers of the Urantia Book with modifications to the errors referencing the supreme. The entire concern of the Sixth Epochal Revelation and its companion volume, the Life and Times of Jesus which consists probably of about 1200 pages alone will become available not by sale, but by gift. That is how the distribution will start. We will provide Ron and his workers in the Magisterial Foundation those we want to have the gift. We are not going to sell it to the general public.
 
Ron Besser
And this: to those who may hear rattling in the tape, we are getting quite a serious northeast storm. We are now experiencing winds close steadily to 20 miles per hour and raining pretty hard. It's rattling this old house's windows.
 
Archangel Ryan
And finally to the rest of you: those who are not on the tape listening at the moment, you are required not to become insured. But to those of you who work directly with the Magisterial Foundation, you should be indemnified for about $100,000 each. Ron, and none of you have that kind of money but you will be made available for indemnification when the time comes, and under our instructions.
And finally this: I'm Archangel Ryan. I belong to the archangel corps, not just of Nebadon, but to Dominion. Many have made fun of the idea that we have at least eight local universes coming together and forming one government to share resources. The entire matter of the death of the supreme and the appearance of Jesus on earth has so emptied our resources, mostly by personnel, we have had to put what Melchizedeks we have and what other Divine Sons we have, together with our effort not only to provide this mission, but to indemnify eight local universes with a protection value that we must supply.
 
The supreme made it abundantly clear he would kill to get control of the local universes in this area. For your information, we have set up the return of Christ and it requires quite an office to do that up here. We have to put machinery in to make the institution of incarnation sustained. The supreme aimed his anger at that office. He destroyed the machinery and over 100,000 workers. They were created especially to see to the return of Jesus and that the apparatus for his return was totally in place. That was on June 19 of 2019. While that was going on one of the
 
Ron Besser
One moment.
 
Archangel Ryan
Vicegerents of the supreme appeared beside Ron invisibly and told him to shut down; he was no longer needed. Ron refused and told him to go take a hike. He burned the chipset in the computer. Ron has it repaired. I want to tell you at that moment, he (god the supreme) destroyed 30,000 seraphim loyal to the local universes and to Dominion. The formation we need with its resources combined to begin life in this universe, without supreme ascendancy. God the Ultimate has been triggered. He has taken, what of the supreme is left as filaments and elements left, combined them into His own mission, and is now preparing to oversee the incursion of Jesus Christ into Urantia and to whatever other planet within the system should hear Him. I am Archangel Ryan and I thank you for listening.
 

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AUDIO TAPE Links - Comments - Schedule inside / Re: Tues LL 09.17.24 ARTHURA & Dominick: 19 & 20 century influence on today

« on: September 19, 2024, 14:21:36 pm »

091724 Audio Tape Tuesday Lightline USA; Host: Dominick
Subjects: The soul; concept of sovereignty;  universal citizenry; The contested government; spiritual administration of God; history of the Urantia book; The apparatus of Luciferian contention governments and its consequences;  of bad planetary development; debauchery of the human spirit; eugenics ideology; limits of citizenship; elites ideology and planetary control; in contention of a vice grip and power of a planet on the precipice of annihilation.
Speakers: Arthura, Dominick  
Transcribed by: sonsofGod
Link To Tape: https://www.conferencecalling.com/recordings/1528070/251848/VCISPREC02_251848_20240917_110126


Dominick  
Welcome to Tuesday. Lightline, September 17. I'm your host, Dominick. We give a quick prayer to our Lord and our King, our Sovereign Jesus, who was a human, and as Jesus was also divine, he was Michael of Nebadon, a Creator Son, a Son of God and Creator of you and me listening to this tape today. And Sovereign authorizer of anyone coming through to speak with us. We thank you, Michael. We, thank you as Jesus and as always, you pointed the way to our own divinity within us, our Universal Father, who is the ultimate Creator of, and Universal Father to us all, including our Lord. Michael. Our prayer goes to you, and we thank you for sending on us to Father. And we thank everyone for joining today, and we welcome Charlotte, who dropped immediately. And we'll probably hear her come back to the call you.

All right, welcome Arthura.

Arthura
I am Arthura, and I have many names, but Arthura is the one I choose to hear to speak with you today. You may inflect any syllable you wish, just don't give it any over emphasis on the meaning. For some are prone to their imaginations. If you were to say my name was Arthu-raw, you would associate me, perhaps with Raw. And if you enunciated the middle part, Arthura, you might associate me with some Malthusian devil. And furthermore, Arthura, for some envisions a God of Camelot. But I am Arthura, hailing from an abode far above that of your locality.

I am assigned to this transmitter who today has but a few words, but he has gone through the preliminary prayer, not to sanction his human perceptions, but to have anything of worth bleed through. Certainly whenever the celestials wish to give their own voice, but until then, we do the best we can to give you the experience as a little son and daughter of God with a potential to become spirit and immortal, and eternal. You are not such upon your origins. This is a confusion, so we start with a quick review of a cosmological origin story for a human that defines your sovereignty, your citizenship, and so on.

Everyone agrees and speaks of the soul. When we teach about the Universal Father within that divinity, that is an additive or a seed of the soul, it is a co creator with you, and so your ego decisions, your mind and your personality, some of all these things are co creators with this divinity, co creators of your soul. But it would be error prone, or conditioned by rebellion, to associate the Father fragment as something separate from the soul. When in fact, they are so close in their experiential association with you, they are hard to differentiate. And in the rebellion this differentiation did not even borderline. It was blasphemous, and therefore you have all these competing or competitor views of what the soul functions has, and whether you were existent in the first place, or pre existent and so on.

For example, false lives are only in the repository experience of the Father fragment, but not part of your own, If that deity fragment existed in previous life entities prior to yours. In that regard, some are more experienced than others in their ministry to human minds, but that the key to your sovereignty as a human and as a universe citizen that you recognize the concept of sovereignty. A human being is inherently sovereign when you are endowed with this divinity. But you become truly citizen sovereign when you are born again of the Spirit.

Rebellion in their apparatus of government is set up to thwart such sovereignty of the individual. It promises the sweet bliss of earthly power and pleasure to do as thy will without consequence. But the consequence is quite real, and it even pertains to your terrestrial and psychological happiness, as to what is truly worth anything, as you say in the end. As you reach the end of your natural life cycle, such meanings come into greater focus. When you are young, the seduction of rebellion is much stronger. And certainly, you are prone to be more influenced by your environment, which is mostly with your relationships and the media of teachings and concepts that determine your morals and values and your aims in life.

The spiritual government is that of our King, our Sovereign, Michael of Nebadon. The contested government is that of Michael of Nebadon’s bestowal here as Jesus, and this planet is literally contested. Therefore, is it always in the interest of the rebellion apparatus to obfuscate and relegate Jesus to a lesser status than the Sovereign Lord and King and ruler of Nebadon. And that ends that section of the review. We welcome many more to the call Charlotte, welcome back. George Huber, Steven GItz welcome. We make a merry 16.


Dominick  
All right, so the rest of the Lightline, thank you. Arthura, is a simple review of some things. We have an origin story of the 5^th epochal revelation going to a transmitter or series of custodians in the late 19th century. A man by the last name of Moses. Ron, step in if I get it wrong, Stanton Moses, Moses Stanton, I'm not quite sure, transmitted Imperator, also known as Malachi. Now, Malachi has a meaning of not just an individual, but could be interpreted as a Spiritual Administration, a collective of angelic and sonship ordered administration of God. Malachi.

So in that respect, when the fifth epochal revelation claims its spiritual administration of God, our Lord, and for lack of awareness for most Christians, the divine, the divinity of Jesus Christ. The divinity behind that entire administration of Jesus was a Bestowal Son, and was both divine and man, who was Jesus, before he was Jesus. And the simple answer is, before there was Jesus, there was Michael. And Michael incarnated and took on the personality and form of Jesus. And when Michael bestows in the past, this creates a dual origin being, and that basically spins off a new personality as Michael returns to his previous form as our Lord.

So Moses transmitted comparator to Malachi, and allegedly was crippled and assassinated, and attempted assassination by Caligastia, the planetary Chief rebel here on this planet. But for lack of a better imagination, you can consider Caligastia as the Eye of Sauron, the invisible force previously, who has rebelled and is immaterial yet kind of bulking. And that entity crippled Moses so that the fifth epochal revelation had to be transferred.

Essentially, it was transferred to a woman by the last name of Piper, and she was instructed that a man would be coming to get the transcript, or the manuscripts. And when Sadler visited as a doctor of psychology and other things, psychology was a emerging science back in that time, and he came to study under Jung, not Jung, but Freud psychology and psychotherapy and whatnot. And Sadler picked up the manuscript from Piper, and we have the story and detail of that transmitted before, and maybe we can refer to that tape in this transcript. That would be nice. Now, that kind of ends the story or sets the stage for what we should do as hearken back to those that time of the early 20th century, and juxtapose that to today's current environment, especially with the 5th epochal revelation or politics in general.

The Saddlers were just to put things in perspective, teachers as a husband-and-wife team. Still basic things that needed to be educated back in those times, not so long ago, but about a century ago. And those where things like Mrs. Sadler was still needing to teach things like the hygiene of menstruation and how to be medically clean. And they taught at an educational forum, I can't remember, but it somewhere was famous here in early America.

Anyway, you have seen that there was many brilliant minds and new thinking coming out of this time in the world. You have out of the alleged 5^th epochal revelation, some of the people involved are like the Kelloggs and the Sadlers, and to be fair, like everything else we compare to today. There, when we look at it through today's lens, it's usually some projection of what we think it is. But the Saddlers and the Kelloggs, I think the Kelloggs were married to the Sears, but there is ideal things in corporate business, like Sears was born, and I think the ideal there is essentially refrigerators and toaster ovens for everybody, because why not? We should be… everybody has a right to live comfortably, and so those luxury elite items were a vision, by I think Sears and Kellogg, just as to feed people well and to give people a little bit more of the basics that their life might be better and that those things could be affordable, Those were the ideals. And we can be fairly certain that no matter what side, which side of the spectrum you might live on today, conservative, liberal, Democrat, Republican, we all claim to be for those types of ideals, I think.

But to be fair, everybody had this: The entire climate was essentially racist. It was a very racially divisive time in planetary history. Everybody had opinions. Everybody was tribal and nationalistic. No one was safe. So, to say one side was this or that, and therefore your origins are racist, well, that's the truth for everybody. Slaves existed for time immemorial, and so on. Now, where is this going?

The apparatus of Luciferian contention governments wishes to deny the Father, the Universal Father, and also deny Michael of Nebadon, and any administration here on this planet. They essentially claim the planet for themselves and therefore, deny your ascension scheme when they can. They don't care about your sovereignty, and they debauch the human spirit with false teaching, and power and lust, and all those things outlined in basic religious texts that would be considered sinful, like the seven sins.

Now, another thing about the fifth epochal revelation is everyone's so afraid that it's a racist. Meanwhile, if you look at anything from that time, it can be considered that. When you look at the mother of Planned Parenthood, Sanger, that was essentially a eugenics ideology, which was just kind of the science almost back in the day. It was erroneous, but these were the ideas being dancing back and forth. And it is the elitists, not the populace, who tend to come up with these ideas, because this is a natural element of history. For example, when a nation conquered another, the citizens formed the soldiers, like in Rome. And the slaves or the lesser conquered people were the auxiliaries, and the auxiliaries were never better equipped, nor were they encouraged to be greater in number than the citizen armies of the ruling empire.

And when you expand those limits of citizenship, like Caesar did, you tend to get killed, just as an aside. But going back to Sanger, she had the idea of birth control as essentially a way to ensure that the roots of the population that are considered, for lack of a better word, auxiliaries of the state that they wouldn't be outnumbered of the elite, the ruling class, the people who were superior. And that would essentially what was best for civilization was this balance, and therefore you don't want, according to those times, the poor, the soldiers and the blacks, because that's what was the environment. The black population was recently emancipated in America, but there were still poor people, and there were still cannon fodder. And the elites have derogatory names for cannon fodder all throughout history, and you can be a piker and so on. Cannon fodder, I'm sure, is from the days of Napoleon or something.

But also with this philosophy, was the government idea that marriage license authorized a couple in the eyes of the state to have children, but it gave the state this is hype. This is political thought. Now, philosophical and political thought the state had the right, ultimately, to be the arbiter of child raising, as well as the unwitting and unwilling sterilization of those the that the state deemed fit to be sterilized, such were the ideas back in the day, And apparently even those ideas that were in America bled into the Nazi justification, and the rest is history.

But the lines were blurred before World War Two. These ideas were being banned about throughout the world in every corner. And as we can see today, the resistance of political ideology versus something like a… I don't know Planned Parenthood, or that the media calls political opposition to globalism, and Democrats who support globalism as populist. Well, such populism is a code name for these deplorable. And so today you have, if Dominick is on the Supreme Court of anything, or co-admin, or co-this, you can consider this simply a… you might say, a dissenting opinion, so that we all understand things a little better, in the words of Occerpa on the forum recently, that we understand each other.

But I simply wish to give you some more context as to why people think they do, why we are where we're at, and some of those origins and where we can go after that we get these missions started, and that the world may look nothing like that we expected to. And certainly from one wing of the people, and this would be the cannon fodder of populist, deplorable Catholics coming over into the country in American history, and even today, rather look down upon with our views.

I'm not a Catholic that's worth much. I've been baptized myself. That's good enough for my mother who baptized me, but I was born again of the Spirit as an adult, having nothing to do with religion, frankly, but falling into that spiritual bucket. But then born again having read the Urantia book, an understanding in modern phraseology and modern thinking, how to resolve all of these things in modern times and come to a new appreciation for what Christianity attempted to do. And what our Lord was, when he appeared as Jesus, and what he is today in our living lives.

So back to the political division, the elites basically tend to follow a world order. And if that is a world order, it has origins and plans from centuries ago that it goes into the bloodlines and goes starts to go so far back into history that you can't help but consider that these things are influenced by this war in heaven, and this division and contention over the rulership of the planet. So when the elites have an agenda and the populist folks tend to call it out, there is your esoteric conflict that gets brainwashed for our minds to think one way or another. And rare is the ability to remove yourself from it and try to look at anything objectively.

As an independent this is what I try to do, but you can see today the origins of … which is just full of irony, how could it be that one side, one side accuses the other of being this or that? Speaking of psychology, it literally is like what is called projection. Projection is the phenomenon of, if you are thinking and acting and behaving in a way, that you project that thinking upon everything and everyone else. When this is in a natural phenomenon, this is a tendency to gravitate towards the thinking that everyone else is like you and thinks like you, and then you find out that's not the case. But when you are acting in a way that is not above board, that's when you risk projection even more, a psychotic or psychosis of projection.

So if you're in the if you're being underhanded, for example, or you're being untruthful, or you're not playing fair in your cooperation, you would be more prone to projection, which would be the accusation that those that you consider competitors or threats to your aims, you would accuse them of doing and being the very thing you are you are. So, that's why today's history lesson is is important, because no one should be, no one is so safe from accusation that they're clean. And so in that regard, the rhetoric could come down. It should come down, and it ought to come down, and everyone should take responsibility. And if you feel you are not being bias, you should at least understand that you could appear to be so. And that it is our striving to know the peace of our Lord that we can survive the ego trap to be offended or even upset by those things.

And in disregard the elites, if and who, if they are Luciferian and mirror Luciferian values of not entirely caring about the cannon fodder of human souls in the wake of their own power and objectives and divine right of rule, that may be, at the end of the day, self elevated. That people are not so stupid, and then this puts us in contention of a vice grip and power that has put a planet on the precipice of annihilation, and brother against brother, sister against sister, And that the elites, if we are… or the Luciferians, the worst thing in the world is an uncontrollable, un compliant, un malleable, and sovereign human, born again of the Spirit of the Father, who is free of the over control of a planetary apparatus set up to deny us from this experience. And until we literally see the missions, all we can do is pray that those who are not born of the Spirit, but think they are, and do not need our Lord, and that they elevate themselves and their Christianity without the divine creator within them, and who is literally the creator of the very ascension scheme we all strive to live after our material deaths.

We pray that we can, in the meantime, find cooperation with them, and at the same time now, we've a little history lesson that Eugenics was simply kind of the thought back in the day. We see where that philosophy of the state and eugenics might still literally be influenced in some of the policies as the state views, as far as radical goes, Christians, hence returning soldiers as the number one domestic threat. So forgive us that we in turn, resent the state in power currently and strive for something different. The citizenship means you have attained a status that's earned and that you must be educated in the ideals and culture of the state. Until you have citizenship there is this thing of considered rights that are universal, and in that regard, we are at logical and practical odds of a precipice of striking a balance in assimilating a lower order of people into a country full of citizens.

This is something that's happened throughout history, and when we say lower order, that is not a genetic thing, but more of a social structure. If you take, for example, a population from a failed state, that population, for example Haiti, has been living in gang of warfare, essentially tribal. If you look at early American immigration, we glorify the tribalism in our media today with shows about gangsters and the violent times back then, and somehow we think that's different if we bring in tribes of people from failed states now. We've seen it in Europe, but we expect different results here, for some reason. The fact of the matter is, these people cannot be faulted. We look at it from a science, political science perspective, social science perspective, and you're going to get people acting tribal when there are new arrivals here. That's human nature. It's almost like physics. Therefore, the policies inviting a disastrous number to come in that would overwhelm the state to function for for any of its citizens, you have to question that policy. So, I don't know, but thank you.  

We're at the Q and A part, or whatever it's we have 15 minutes left, so we can press five star if you'd like to raise your hand make a comment or question and ask for clarification. Again, you can always ask. What did you mean when such and such was said? Or could you say a little bit more about XYZ? These things help. Indeed, we really appreciate everyone showing up, but those would be natural questions that I know that you must be walking away from every Lightline, and that you don't ask it doesn't do the rest of us a service. It eventually breeds some possible thinking in your own mind down the road. But I do appreciate everyone I'm just telling for time. Press five star if you wish. Otherwise, I hope you enjoyed today's Lightline and have a good day.

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General Discussion / Re: Need your help with transcription work, please

« on: September 05, 2024, 00:36:50 am »

Thank you for your acknowledgement and kind words, Ron, and for taking the time to write a long post. I also wish to address Father Michael with thanksgiving for his words and for clarification, and Dominick to answer his concerns.

First and foremost, there is a level of miscommunication between us that may reveals our hearts and minds, for I have not issued my resignation of any position, other than transcribing Lightline audio recordings, to use the extra time to work more diligently on the Fatherslightline website Second Coming archive, which needs my full and urgent attention before I would need to greet Jesus shamefaced. All other posts are in timely order. Would I have intended otherwise, I should have let Dominick know on the first place, but it did not even cross my mind, rather the opposite, leaving me restless to finish what I started on time.  

This motivated me to quit transcribing and not some personal agenda, which was a very difficult decision to make, being aware of the importance of the transcriptions and leaving other transcribers with two extra Lightlines. For this reason, I seek replacement, and repeatedly ask that someone please sacrifice a few hours per week to transcribe at least one of the Lightlines..

Determined to do more and better, unimaginable events cut back my productivity to a small fraction of my capacity for years, and I never thought of my contribution being satisfactory, but thank you Ron for your words. and this alone causes me utmost anguish while hoping for better days under Father’s wings. Right now all looks bleak, and we should all pray for greater clarity coming to us. It is fully understandable that Father Michael is working towards mobilizing his sons and daughters on the whole planet, and we thank him for allowing us to be a part and pray for success.  

Concerning archiving, Ron, I was able to recollect all Lightline audio recordings (at least 95%) and created an easy reference catalogue file for them. They are stored up on my computer hard drive and external drive for back-up. I should transfer them to mail it to Raz after catching up with the urgent works first.

For my great joy I have recovered over 16 thousand Serara forum pages starting 2018, thus reports of the universal events of 2019 are preserved. They were created by a website copying program; therefore the addresses are indexed without meaning. It takes manual work to rename the files that  is a simple process with the help of Preview Panel in File Explorer, without have to open them. Would someone like to work on those if I send a copy?

These are my current forum activities and I am open for suggestions and Father’s assignment regarding these or other works.

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General Discussion / Need your help with transcription work, please

« on: September 04, 2024, 13:01:53 pm »

Dear forum members and friends,

It is time for me to pursue some other works that requires my full-time effort. Consequently, I find it necessary to withdraw from transcribing Lightline audio recordings and ask if you would please consider replacing me to transcribe Monday or Tuesday Lightlines, or both as I did. I will provide training to make sure you will learn it easily and quickly.

The work consists of making corrections to the AI transcription generated on a transcribing website, which is at least 95% accurate or better, as its primary discrepancies are spelling the names wrong. The site also allows for correcting the text online while listening to the audio recording, which is a rewarding experience for deeper penetration of the heard. I loved that part the most and hope that you would enjoy it as much as I did.

Next, you will export the corrected text to your word processor program to do the usual formatting of the document, then post it on the forum. The entire process takes only a few hours, and it is a very important work for non-English speakers, and I believe celestials archive the transcription in the universe archive.

Thank you for giving it a serious consideration and if interested, please message sonsofGod. Thank you again. Blessings and love

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NETHERLANDS iNTERNATIONAL CALL IN NUMBERS AND ACCESS CODES / Re: Lightline Netherlands International

« on: September 04, 2024, 02:08:54 am »

• 090224 Audio Tape Monday Lightline Netherlands International; Host: Elise Sophia Veronica
• Subjects: It will take many years to thoroughly clean up the entire universe from the rebellion; Machiventa Melchizedek is the new Planetary Prince; missions ongoing; worldly attitudes hold-up progress of the WTP program; small ways to help the planet; universal personalities, roles of the Son of God and journey of sons of God.    
• Speakers: Michael of Nebadon,Machiventa Melchizedek, and Arthura
• Transcribed by: sonsofGod
• Link to tape: https://www.conferencecalling.com/recordings/1528070/251848/VCISPREC02_251848_20240902_110204

 
 
Elise  
This is Lightline Netherlands international for September the 2nd, 2024. And hello to everyone. I'm Elise, and I welcome all of you. It has been a beautiful day here with blue skies and a little white cloud here and there. I hope you're enjoying the same in the places where you live. Well, let's thank our Father, first of all for the gift of our lives, and the many beautiful things we receive. We also like to thank all celestial beings who give that time and care to this group and to other active groups, whom we hope to include in our cooperative efforts of bringing men to God and God to men. And we pray that the planets soon will be cleared from all insurrection that hinder the plans that were envisioned for Urantia. And we ask your Father, may we please receive your words.
 
Michael of Nebadon  
Thank you, Elise. This is Michael, your Lord, your Creator Father, your protector, and ruler of this universe of Nebadon, I greet you all.
 
Elise  
Welcome Michael, we all greet you.
 
Michael of Nebadon  
This universe I'm talking about, this universe of Nebadon, that I made entirely to my own ideas and wishes. Every Creator Son has the opportunity to do so, and every Creator Son who has been educated and trained will face the challenges during the times of creation and growth, that such a vast creation brings. But we are Creator Sons, and we are born as such with all the attributes we need, and the long training we have received to do such things.
 
So, I am Michael of Nebadon, and I love my creation, my universe, and the things that go on in it, despite the trouble and difficulties we sometimes have to face. But I, and I know all Creator Sons work with great pleasure to realize their creation to become better and more created, and working to the will of the Father. And to see their creation enter the first periods of Light and Life must be a joy for all Creator Sons, after having completed the seven required stages and are accepted as a full fledged member in the circle of enlightened planets. And where we have brought forth humans who are capable of knowing God, and are willing and well prepared to serve Him. God, the Father, in His infinite, never ending creation.
 
You, and all who learn and are here together are working for a better future, for a better creation, for an enhanced creation. There will be a long time before we reach the first stages of Light and Life that will bring the people of Urantia together, and make them fully become aware of what the purpose is for a planet, and for the people who live on it. And the knowledge which is needed that the entire universe is created, ruled, and sustained by the one God, the Creator and Father of all, that is and ever will be.
 
Urantia is a difficult planet. It has been severely affected by the influence of an apostate Son of God, and it will take many years of decisions and negotiations, many high consultations between your rulers and governors on high, to cleanse the universe of such terrible and profound sins against God, But in the end, that will be the case. There are 1000s and 1000s of celestial beings working together to achieve that, but there are many jurisdictions that must also be taken into account on high. Yes, especially on high, where there are so many highly appointed beings, and where decisions must be taken into consideration that have a major impact, and must be constantly reconsidered to ensure that not a tiny small thread of Lucifer ideas can once again influence the evolution of the universe.
 
This is Michael, your Creator Father. I have a short message to you, because I have lots of work to do, but I love you all and I bid you farewell. I thank you, and I will hand this over to my Son, Machiventa Melchizedek who would like to address this group. Good day to all of you.
 
Elise  
Thank you, Michael, and welcome to Machiventa Melchizedek.Please speak if you wish.
 
Machiventa Melchizedek  
Thank you, Elise, this is Machiventa. I am the one who comes to this group to have a few words about the new situation that will affect this transmitter and other transmitters. As the Father has decreed recently a new schedule in which each transmitter will have a share in the proclamation of God's word. But not before the insurrectionists have been removed and eliminated. Then Michael will announce his new plans and our work will continue. The Melchizedeks will be back on the planet to continue their work throughout the world, protecting, teaching, and bringing hope to their designated areas where they will be working for some time.  
 
I, Machiventa ask you, all of you, to not shy away from disturbances that may arise among people, when spirit becomes known among the population. People will someday notice that there is something going on in the world that they are not familiar with, and they will experience it as threatening. But all of you know that we are in the world and that Michael of Nebadon is committed to winning this world for the Father, and bringing the planet to its full potential.
 
I am Machiventa Melchizedek, and I have resumed my post as Planetary Prince after my special meeting with the Father on Paradise, where I was called upon for specific duties. And together with my staff, and with the Melchizedeks present then on the planet, and the many-many other spiritual groups, we will carry out the tasks in due time that Michael has assigned to us, and perhaps will use small groups of people. We will try to move the world to a new approach of healing the planet and removing it from its dire position by carrying out the works of God on Urantia.
 
I am Machiventa, and I speak to you openly, as there is only a small group that can receive us. And we depend in part on the willingness of such groups to achieve success in this difficult and vast undertaking. But be patient and do your work as always. Pray for the world and its inhabitants, and pray to God, our Father, for strength for all who participate in this once again adaptive return of spirit to Earth. In which Jesus and Michael will manifest when time and circumstances permit, and the world is ready to receive such a high delegation.  
 
I, Machiventa, I'm still with you, and I say the following, I am Machiventa Melchizedek. And this transmitter and many of you have been thinking and bringing out information to certain individuals of high influential standing who could have a possible interest in the power of the new electricity patent,  that Ron Besser has made up so clearly. A number of you on this forum have been working to publicize the WTP program, and none of you have had any success in getting a response from those who we need to bring this invention to the world.
 
We know that countries as Germany, Great Britain, the Netherlands, as well as the United States, Canada and other nations with advanced industries, their laboratories and scientific knowledge would all be an excellent place to start a factory for WTP in the world. You all have the scientist and the architect, and you all have the money, but no one knows about the project. Despite your efforts to reach so many institutions and universities, and up to the highest levels of your governments in Europe, as well as in the United States, where scientists and scholars not know about WTP and do not know how to deal with it or what to do with such a simple, yet very ingenious idea of introducing electricity in this fashion.
 
This is Machiventa, and I tell you this: Everywhere, this is the case in the high industrial developed countries in the world. The institutions that can work with Ron's invention avoid all collaboration out of fear of losing grip on the market by taking a step out of their comfort zone, and they keep believing that they will be able to realize their own invention. In which they are already indeed far advanced, but are not capable to do what is so vital in Ron's invention, of how to make connections and hook-ups between tables and generators as described in the patent. Those people are missing a few things in their theory. They will move forward, but not as Ron has done in his work by the valuable patent that is now his. And is available to start the implementation of constructing a plant that will help the world to be freed from high costs of electricity supply for all Its electrical appliances, from as small as a wrist watch to flying your airplanes.
 
So, if you look at what is stopping this wonderful invention from facilitating the world, it is the people themselves who are suspicious and selfish, and not at all inclined to share but keep things hidden. As In most cases with people in the industry. Until they finally learn differently and share their ideas and knowledge to feel free and open with each other, to realize that cooperation is the best way to progress in all areas of existence. For improvement should always be and have the greatest effect to produce the next generation of scholars and scientists, and highly efficient leadership. Cooperation is needed to learn and understand each other, and better results will follow. Leading to good relationship and acceptance of all who must learn to live in a world of more harmony and ego conditions for every global citizen.
 
This is Machiventa Melchizedek. I leave you my support for a world that will hopefully transform men into a more responsive, respectful, and trustworthy human being for each other. But also for us, the spiritual world, that is leading you to these wonderful new methods of scientific progress and use of new resources for all of you. This is Machiventa, and this is all I wanted to say to you, and I wish you a very good day.
 
Elise  
Thank you, Machiventa. And this is Elise, and I will have a look at my screen to see if anyone else came in. I heard the ding dong sometimes. (ding dong) Oh, there it goes again! And we… Oh, there's Valerie and Salvador, oh he, Salvador, came in again. Well, welcome everyone. Okay, let's continue and see if we will get more for today. Just give me a minute. Hold on please. 
 
Arthura  
Yes, hello, everyone. This is Arthura at your service. Good day and good evening on the second of September of 2024, where soon the seasons will change, and another season will take hold of your nations with the usual adaptations needed to protect oneself against the cold. Which means for the northern hemisphere, more emissions to warm up your houses, more emissions of gasses and the waste products from high consumption to regulate severe cold with the equipment currently used on your planet. But at the same time, the southern hemisphere will use up a lot of that consumption by cooling their places and homes. It is therefore, that it is so very important that the pilot plan for free electricity will be built, to stop the waste reduction, of which there is already too much and forms a great danger to life on the planet. Man has created an almost unlivable Earth for himself and for the animal and plant life. You know that many species are disappearing, and they will never return. Man has taken from the earth as if it were a candy store to enjoy, and we have talked about that, without thinking of the consequences. 
 
Elise  
just a minute. Okay.
 
Arthura  
We want you to think about this. This is Arthura. Some of you individuals have given out serious warnings over the past years, but most are being ignored, and nations are slow to change and bring more efficient manners. And before you know, a lot of things have been destroyed before measures have been taken.  
 
Elise 
I just have to take a minute, there's a problem here is the computer. Just a minute. I do not know what's to matter. Well... Oh, okay, I think I'll just go on. I have to unmute you for a minute and see if you … just a minute. Can you hear me all right? Can you hear me? All right? 
 
Audiance  
Oh, yes. Yes, we can. Yes.
 
Elise  
Okay, okay, I'll mute you again, because all of a sudden I have a very strange beep through my telephone. Okay, let me mute you again and continue.
 
Arthura  
Okay, let's continue. This is Arthura. Well, talking about this all, the people of Urantia have a key knowledge, and have taken their technical knowledge to a high level. But in the meantime, have neglected what people shall desperately need, a healthy environment to sustain life on this planet Or better yet, to improve things for everything and every living being, and assure this through their applied technologies.
 
This is Arthura. Just go ahead, Elise. Everything is fine.
 
Elise
Okay, thank you, Arthura.
 
Arthura
We, from afar and sometimes close to you, we observe man. and we see your hunger for more. More of what you already have in abundance, and what you have taken from nature without giving anything in return. So that now man falls victim to his ever increasing desire to brace himself in contentment. And this will not give him any satisfaction to build a future for all who live on this planet, and only over a short but sour profit for a very small group. And none of this will be helpful in building a soul that needs to mature through life experience and by doing good to others. And none of it will help those when they are going over to the mansion worlds, where the value of his life on this earth will be determined and estimated for its value. Then some might wish to have served much better for the benefit of his own spiritual future. But man will eventually learn, until this planet will be saved and shine. For after all, it is the planet that Michael has chosen for his final bestowal, and it is therefore the planet of the Father, of Michael himself, and of Jesus. 
 
I am Arthura. I think that man will go through a period of learning in which he will realize his actions, and will have to make amends for what was done to a creation that was beautiful in its origin, and intent bid to serve the human race in its existence. But man will learn to cherish what was once so terribly disturbed by his unwise actions and he will finally understand that what he was given to maintain. And until then, we wait to see what more can be done to help humans in its efforts to bring about change in a world that is now at war. And where people died without having had the chance to grow their souls, because some in this world decided to fight and destroy what was once good and beautiful. Let us hope and pray what Michael and hopefully the Magisterial Sons will be able to do for Urantia. And that the people will get a better insight in good living conditions that will help keep the peace and bring prosperity to many. And to have the opportunity to know God and thank Him for what it is to be a human on a normal planet.
 
You cannot change the world, not by yourself, but you can make an effort to bring changes to yourselves and to your environment. Show that you care and become active on a small scale. And that may grow into large undertakings that will affect, eventually, the world at large. You all have the ability to have some influence in your societies. You have the knowledge, and you are aware of the need. Keep talking to each other, keep together. If you have a chance, keep talking to your children. And begin working together on a very small project in a very small way, and see where it leads to. It is all a matter of the mind. But we are confident that every effort you make will help bring knowledge and truth to many, and it will make a difference in the approach to life, and the way you use your world as a healthier place to live in freedom and happiness. Remember that even a small change always has its effect, and your initiatives will support goodwill among the people.
 
When we speak of the mind, we think of a more dedicated and higher knowledge of God, of your intention to find God by trying to live his will, and to live your life as true sons and daughters of God. And when we talk about sons of God, we may speak about all sons of God, whether they are written with a capital S or a small s. Every living being that is an entity, a creature with mind is capable of understanding God, and is a child of the Father on Paradise, the first Source and Center. And each of these individuals know the Father at some point during his or her existence.
 
There are the higher sons of God. They are those who are working at the higher realms, and they are directly of the Father. They are the Deities, divine creatures, the coexistent Eternal Son and their coordinate personality, the Infinite Spirit. There are other divine beings who are not directly of God, but created by other deities. High divine beings with high specific endowed traits for specific tasks. And they represent God in His universe, and are all endowed with great mind and speak for themselves if they choose to.
 
There are those creatures created with mind to learn about the Creator or the humans on the planet. But for them, God has created many worlds and millions of ways to climb up along path of their choosing, and to be able to find him while they are extending their knowledge in the universes of time. They are traversing one by one from one sphere to the other, always according to their own free will and choice, assisted by many, many celestial beings.
 
God has also created other highly intellectual beings to assist and govern the realms and worlds one passes through. And while the lower creatures slowly rise and grow and receive their training in all these different areas, the higher creatures serve to provide the order and all things necessary for those levels of creation to experience and to learn.
 
Moreover, the Father has given humans a special fragment of himself that guides the human from the beginning, and even gives them the opportunity to fuse with that divine part of the Father. So that they can become like him in his domain on Paradise as finalities, or finaliters. And that is an ascended creature who has passed through all stages of learning in the universe, to be ready to discern the Gods on high, beginning with the Infinite Spirit, then the Eternal Son, and finally, God, the Father Himself, who will receive his child, and after a certain time, this new born son or daughter of God will be given new assignments and go out again into the universes.
 
You are all children of the one and only Father, the God of creation. The God who sustains his creation through his own power and love that creates his universe of universes, which has no end. And will continue to unfold before your eyes as you adhere the will of your Father on Paradise to become like him, to love him as he loves you, and to be like him in your love for others as he is for all his children. I'm Arthura, always at your service, and I bid you all a good day.
 
Elise
Thank you very much, Arthura. Well, this is Elise, and I'm returning to my dashboard. I see we still have some time, and I will try to receive something more if there is more for me. I still have that beep coming through, but I hope you are not hearing that in my transmission.
 
Machiventa Melchizedek  
This is Machiventa Melchizedek, Elise. No, you're doing all right and just do what you like to do. At this moment, you still have a couple of minutes You can go for the question and answer if you like to, or you can turn the Lightline off to your wishes. And thank you for doing the Lightline. This is Machiventa Melchizedek, and I say goodbye for now.
 

Elise
Thank you, Machiventa, thank you for being our helper at any time we need someone to continue. Okay, I'm looking if there are any question marks, or maybe you have someone wants to say something. We still have a couple of minutes, and I'll give you a little time. 
 
I think we had some information from our celestial friends, which you are lucky to receive regarding the situation and the warnings we were giving yesterday. So it was a good thing that we tried the Lightline and got connected. And I will finish this Lightline and close this for today. 
 
I want to thank the celestials who came to give us some words. And it was Michael and Machiventa Melchizedek, and Arthura was here. Did we have anyone else? I don't remember. Well, I thank them all, and I thank you all the listeners for attending this Lightline. Thank you so much, and we'll see what happens next week. Thank you and goodbye.
 
End 

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General Discussion / What are the expected results of earth-shaking events?

« on: September 01, 2024, 13:29:32 pm »

Working my way through Serara Forum posts of old for preservation I came across the January 3, 2024, Wednesday Lightline with host Lemuel. Below is an excerpt from it, but before, I also need to bring to your attention that this ongoing work would require more of my time and effort, thus, I feel it's time for me to withdraw from transcribing Lightline audio recordings. Herein, I extend my invitation and request to please prayerfully consider applying yourselves to continue with the transcribing work of Monday and Tuesday Lightlines as needed (right now it is slowed down, perfect timing for takeover), either one person or divide it between two. I will provide a practice run but would preliminarily inform you that the work consists of making corrections to the AI transcription generated on a transcribing website, which is at least 95% accurate or better, as its primary discrepancies are the spelling of names. The site also allows for correcting the text online in combination with listening to the audio recording, making it a rewarding experience of deeper penetration of the heard. Closing the site after exporting the corrected text to your word processor program, you would be formatting the document to post it in the uniformed LL transcription format. I hope you would enjoy it as well as I did. Thank you for giving it a serious consideration and if interested, please message sonsofGod. Thank you.

Now back to the quote, and I want to thank Amadon for this message. Please read it with the understanding of the latest news of invisible missions.

Amadon
Well, you all know the fact that Jesus had his team of… like an Intelligence Corps, yes, I can, yes, we can call it an Intelligence Corps, headed by this very young boy David, if you recall. And the reason I am mentioning this is because at the moment, the intelligence services that we have, and when I say we, I mean not just the services, not just the Melchizedeks.

The Melchizedeks are referred to many times as an emergency force, and they can lend their hands to anything and everything when it is necessary, but also there are other intelligence forces and liaison forces, and many other forces that you know nothing about, and they are working, gathering all the information that is necessary for the go-ahead of everything that you have and we have all been waiting for. So, a lack of intelligence is not the problem. What needs to be known is known. What we need is the go-ahead.

But I can tell you that there are at least two plans not quite on the table, but they are being thought about. One is to cause something that will stop everything and everyone in their tracks. Just two days ago, there was an earthquake in Japan, I'm sure you all are aware of this. I think it was 7.3 on the Richter scale, they're still looking for survivors. Because the infrastructure is so disrupted, of course, transport and rescue services, are finding it extremely difficult. If there was a tremendous earthquake in Russia, for example, that would stop the war immediately… This is one scenario.

The other one, of course, is to make the arms obsolete. They can also do this. If there are no bullets, no one's going to be killed by a bullet. The reason these things are being thought about is that something must be done in order for something to start here. To wait for peace, you wait forever. Something can be done to stop people in their tracks and to make them think something is going on here on a global scale and then an announcement can be made to tell people well, we have come in peace. You are unable to find peace amongst yourselves, but we have come in peace in order to save more lives. Well, it may be a bit fanciful for some of you. But I, Amadon, want to tell you that these things can be done when the permission is given.

My own thoughts about the situation, this is Amadon, speaking through Lemuel. My own thoughts about this is yes, something can be done but it needs to be a minimum. Otherwise, there will be global panic thinking that alien forces have come to take over the planet. And that is to be avoided at all costs, of course. But yes, something can be done something not quite subtle, a bit more than subtle, but something that's going to make people think and question; something's going on here? You know. And so I will leave it like that for the moment and I will step back… Thank you.

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The reason I post this quote before it all begins is to share my thoughts about it and give you the opportunity to add your input as well.

I believe, complete disarmament of weapons is a wonderful idea for multiple reasons. One, it will immediately stop all wars. No more war casualties and suffering, Two, no more unjustified forceful misuse of technology (aware of all other kinds of horrible ones but need to start somewhere). Three - most importantly - it communicates that God is definitely involved, a miracle took place, and it would strongly display the intention of our Father (or higher power, or whatever names and images people chose to attach to the event at first). It speaks purely of an act of consideration, good intention, power, and love, followed up with appropriate steps. I believe this would most definitely draw the attention of all the living and open their ears to listen to new messages.

This would also swing the door wide open to public appearances of Spirit beings in audible form, or with an art visual background on television, and other devices for communication. First, it would need clarification of who these entities are, how they relate to Universal Father, and that he is in control. People are alien minded because that is all they know. Those who claim to know Father already familiar with certain ways in the religious institutions, so this would serve a needed awakening of them also. In other words, what is/was the excuse for not reading the Urantia book since 1955 if not disinterest and deliberate rejection for religion sake? Everyone’s Though Adjuster is capable of leading their wards to the Urantia book, if there would be a spark of interest. Therefore, nothing will change people’s mind of their current believes, may it be about religion or alien invasion, until Father speaks up through his Sons. The Magisterial Sons, Christ Micheal, Michael of Nebadon, Jesus, the Melchizedecks. All we are listening to they should too, simply because there is no other way. They speak the truth and all falsehood will fall away if confronted by The Truth. Yes, Urantia needs shaking and this is a good way of doing it, the way I see it, without seeing any disadvantage.    

The speeches of educational content could have the dual purpose of exposing the darkness and giving instructions to conquer it. It would allow people to arise and overthrow the deception operating in their personal lives and communities. It would shake up Urantia entirely, true, but for the better and not for worse, because it would give HOPE. Otherwise, with scattered natural disasters globally, it will become worse before it could be better. Recounting the major tsunamis and earthquakes that took millions of lives in the past decades, the world continued on its usual ways after a time of recovery. Even in New Orleans, Father have mercy! I personally do not see - and I can be very wrong about this without adequate data - that it resulted in spiritual uplift of the afflicted areas.

Correct me if I am wrong, or just say what you will. Thank you.

 

 

 

 

 

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US PATENT ISSUED TO BROADCAST ELECTRICITY / Re: NAVY PUBLISHES PATENT FOR FREE-ENERGY DEVICE

« on: August 30, 2024, 16:00:09 pm »

Reading the post about this free energy device sparked my interest too, and revisited the post to watch the video that you provided the link to, Weydevu. There were two patents indeed at the same time 2019, one for the free energy device that is a very simple concept to understand, the other is a room temperature superconductor that would revolutionize the computer industry.  

It claims that the free energy device operates based on channeling electrons through a needle to touch a pointy object placed into an Argon filled gas chamber. It says, it produces this tremendous Terawatt of energy from a 1000 Watt input! Which means 1 million times the input energy. (See the sketch from the patent in the video between the time interval Weydevu added in his post.)

So far, according to the report, triangle shaped spacecrafts - off planet alien technology - utilize this technology by adding four of those objects pointing to the center., creating the energy fuel. The craft is able to travel across Urantia in 9 seconds, it takes 8 minutes to reach the moon, and so on. 

It shown that in comparison to the largest US nuclear power plant in Arizona, this device produces 250X the energy in a basketball sized unite, 4GW vs 1TW. Reportedly, 4GW is enough to fuel a whole city. Is that mean the largest nuclear plan could only produce enough energy to fuel one city? 

This video was published in 2020, we do not hear from it anymore. The man who leaked information was put out. The technology, the patent, and the aircraft are shown as real, but not shown in motion. Can this be untrue if the patent is real? 

My final question is, could energy like this be harvested out from the chamber for commercial use? or without Argon it will dissipate? What do you think about it Ron, please, from physics point of view. I understand it is secret program. So as WTP, apparently. 

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AUDIO TAPE Links - Comments - Schedule inside / Re: Tues LL 08.27.24 Distinctions in Christ Consciousness

« on: August 30, 2024, 15:00:25 pm »

Those are beautiful words of commitment, P Jammer. While you were questioning you have answered your question, the way I see it. Just as the Spirit of God came upon the apostles, so it shell come upon us when it's time, if our commitment is as real as you have cried out. We cannot add to it more than our free will offering to hear and obey, but the power of God is strictly coming from Father by the Grace of God when he says, now is the time, empowering us to be more like him without compromise. It is by the power of our Father God through our cooperation that we are becoming his arms, legs and mouthpieces. It is a process. We should seek him daily with knowing his plans for our life, being his sons. 

I was waiting for these days, for all my Christian life as we all do, believing in the 'suddenly'. Father Michael referred to the 'suddenly' in a Lightline about two weeks ago. That will be our Pentecost. Dates may change but we are fast approaching the changes coming upon the earth, and after that it will come, I believe. Apostle Paul described it as the fullness of Christ at the time of Jesus' rule and reign, where we, as part of his body rule and reign with him in our assigned territories, but this has a bad taste now based on how this authority was abused so far. Ruling really means loving as only God can love. It is a beautiful promise. Isaiah described it as receiving the seven spirits of God, which is the fullness. However, before we could claim to represent our Holy Father we need to get purified one more time, as silver and gold is purified by fire. When the gold is melted (may represent our hearts in the midst of earth changes and natural disasters) the impurities in the gold will come upon the top and get skimmed off by the master jewelry maker. We are his workmanship likewise. It will come in God's timing, so that you may hear "Arise and shine, the glory of the Lord has risen upon you", This also means, we have no glory; we can only reflect who he is. 

I received the proof of it that I will share, an experience I had many years ago when I was working in a ministry practically overtime every day. I did not feel tired but one day became mean spirited. I could not extend care and love to the people who came late and wanted me to bend the rules for them. Mercy would do that, but it made me rather irritated instead, and this was going on for three days straight. Then I broke down crying and told the Lord that no matter how hard I try, I cannot be loving and kind, I am sorry, please forgive me! Then he answered and said, "I did it to show you that apart from me you can't do NOTHING. Which part of the nothing you don't understand? This ministered to me very greatly and I will never forget it. 

We strive, and we should do our best, yes, but only with understanding the Source of our existence even for the next breath, and the condition of our being, good or bad. We repent, start a new, try even harder, all is needed, but we have been tested and tried also on purpose, and it did not come easy. I know I failed over and over to be even my best, much less resembling God, but applying what Jesus said to me, did he not permitted it to happen? Yes, he did, he even caused it to humble me some more. And to see the secret parts of my heart, our hearts, how are we going to respond to bad situations? Are we still thanking him and praise him for what is left of us (nothing) or turn against or walk away from God? So, we can say, our bad experiences and longing make us. 

Job lost truly everything and insisted that although he wished he had not conceived in his mother's womb; he will see God on the last day! He knew he was accepted and loved, and innocent. Job was renown and well respected in the land for his goodness and generosity towards his servants and the poor and needy. A beautiful testimony of faith and trust no matter what, and we are always reminded to be like Job to our neighbors. Now I am not comparing ourselves to Job's greatness or Ron's, but Father always gives us the opportunity to please him. He will accomplish his will through us as long as we are willing to work it out with him. 

I share this scripture that was presented to me this morning through a channel I love to watch. Jeremiah 17:7-8 says, "...blessed is the one who trusts in the Lord, whose confidence is in him. They will be like a tree planted by the water that sends out its roots by the stream. It does not fear when heat comes; its leaves are always green. It has no worries in a year of drought and never fails to bear fruit.” Amazingly, as I just finished writing this post, I turned on my phone where the YouTube app was open, and a video came on. The speaker momentarily started to pray for the fullness and to Father to fill us. Then she mentioned Job, and I hear this message of hers for the first time, totally unexpected to hear it, but serves as confirmation. All Glory be to God. 

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« on: August 29, 2024, 21:32:32 pm »

This Tuesday Lightline revealed a concept that ignited much thought in me over the years, the forthcoming of the true ‘false’ religion, that New Though, during the time of the tribulation on earth (call it earth changes), during the time of the antichrist. I am not suggesting that one person will come forth as such, in spite of the endless speculations who might it be, besides many signs and clues given to identify him. Apart from all that however, I am now referring to the scripture that says there are many antichrists in the world today, which is the majority of all the earth population by definition of being in Christ. Same as it was over 2,000 years ago when this word came forth through Apostle John.  

What is called false religion? We can simply say, what is not true is false, right? Since Jesus Christ - as he had proclaimed and also Apostle Andrew just urged us to always remember it - Christ Jesus IS the Truth, the Way and the Life. That means if Jesus is not the center of our religion, if we would have no Christ consciousness WITHIN, or if we chose to compromise to go sideways a little beside the strictly conservative notion that Christ is all, which nowadays is highly criticized and condemned, we are at danger of promoting false religion while claiming to be Christians, claiming to be in Christ, if we live by some worldly standards as most of the Christians do today. If it would not be the case, this world would already have the Kingdom of God established on Urantia, by and through believers in Christ, for in him (Father, Christ Michel, and Jesus Christ as One) should we move, live, and have our BEING.

So, importantly not only knowing of, but also being IN, doing and loving as Christ, to walk the walk and not just talk the talk. IN HIM, as part of him, as one of his cell in his body, we follow (copy, multiply) him, and be like him by the power of God, and not the power or self or the power of the whole universe (which in fact Father, but in that scenario going unrecognized), or by any thought or experience, or imagination, but by true Christ Conscious Spirit. The Truth is, he is The Truth, and apart from him we can do nothing. And this is the answer to the fact that we have yet accomplished little to nothing for the Kingdom's sake, other than always should love our neighbors as ourselves. So, we can build the kingdom daily in our direct environment, and again, if all the billions of church members done that the Kingdom of God would already be on earth. Importantly, while many people are doing nothing but good, even sacrificially, this unity consciousness is still missing, which has the power to turn the world right-side up, but not without facing the resistance of the dark ones.

We were also advised that Jesus NEVER looked at anyone’s religion or origin (that includes all types of manifestations of a person based on ethnicity and culture), therefore, he never caused division into many factions but united all who listened into one. The current estimated 45,000 Christian denominations in the world fall so short on this unity Christ consciousness, thus it lost its power as a whole due to fragmentation, individualism, headiness, and egocentricity. But is that false religion? Anything other than true Christ consciousness is not from Father, for it is not representing him in a manner that he would be glorified, that people would be helped and blessed, thus should also be considered false, regardless of its doctrinal identity.

Unlike Dominick, I spent over two decades with bible studies and with trying to interpret and understand prophetic messages, whereby Christian interpreters believe in the coming of a new form of religion that would become mandatory to join for one’s social acceptance. Needless to say, the liberalistic approach of Christ consciousness where practically anything goes, literally will ease into this new false religion, promoting the New Thought without the awareness of the already lukewarm and compromised members. It is already in operation with the widespread prosperity gospel. Who will tell the difference? The only obvious distinguishing factor will be - if this ever comes to pass, but the religious concept of indifference already exist - that the worship and church services will move to Saturday as it has been in biblical times, and so most Christians will not have an objection, or option in compliance with the law passed at the time, otherwise will be labeled a rebel and enemy of the state. This will flow into the New Thought that Dominick so brilliantly described, without many realizing its deceptive nature.

The fundamental difference between true and false Christianity is and ever will be, is the manifestation of the power of God. As Dominick pointed out, that is the divine inherent power, now weakly expressed through some without the deep relationship with CHRIST and the Spirit of God, with all due respect for the exceptions. Those therefore has no concept of submitting to the Father’s will, has no community consciousness, rather promoting universal freedom of existence on higher dimensions, greater resonance frequencies and higher energy levels of divine illumination in their new realities. And it is so. All due recognition to those who could break free from the material realm to soar in the realms of the spirit.

If you want to see the perfect example of such divine manifestation, you may want to take a look at Alysa Rohston, whom I adore for her ability to embrace such gift of the universe, which made her a sought out spiritual light versus the very sickly overweight human being she was at her young age with multiple severe illnesses, diseases, and intake of over 20 prescribed pills daily. She had her out of body experience to transform into this wonderful heavenly messenger she is, so full of joy and light. And that is just one example I have encountered lately, but there are many light workers who has the capacity to embrace Christ consciousness, but as if there would be another way around, yet traversing in the universe. They are one embrace away from becoming aware of whom they really are, and it was not their conscious choosing to approach the Way though such experiences. I believe they are ascending to this station in Christ.

So, these new age believers have the capacity to finally learn the Way, the Truth, and the Life, and adjust their believes and service to the ways of our Father, as opposed to serving humanity based on their own understanding which really leads nowhere, because it is built on lack of understanding (false information). They promote individual elevation of soul and consciousness to know the divine ‘higher self’ and that is commendable, but ignore the current times and seasons as if one could elevate self out from this world by human will, using divine energy. Until things are going relatively smooth as they go now, even if we do not necessarily agree with everything that is around us, this approach seems positive and desirable. Yet it is not ready to face the reality of physical and spiritual affliction due to earthly circumstances in the power of the spirit of antichrist. Again, that is everything against Christ’s divine authority and willful submission to his will. Thus, the antichrist is not necessarily a person.

That spirit has already overtaken the earth for the most part, and there are small groups of people scattered around who are willing to give their all for the Father’s Kingdom to come, and his will be done on earth as it is in heaven. And this is the distinguishing factor between fighting for the right cause or representing some unreality that will not be able to stand the test of time. In contrast, we are looking at confused Christianity, whereas, I am afraid, many will continue to be led astray by deception as so many different ways have already happened.

Dominick precisely pointed out this difference by recognizing the new thought of easy life without paying the price, but we all know that it is not a universal law. But what you sow is what you reap as Jesus taught us, and so much more than that. So, we must be very rooted in his doctrine to recognize the deception and mellowed down truth, which therefore becomes untrue as morphing in the process. The analogy given is recognizing the genuine dollar bill versus counterfeit. One only needs to be completely familiar with the original to immediately spot out the fake one.

Thank you, Dominick, and thank all of you who is taking the time to meditate over these words and thoughts. Not necessarily to agree, but to be able to have a healthy argument within, if needed, against the tricks of the enemy, and to develop a solid foundation in Christ for the times ahead. It is not by a mare accident that Europe has been flooded by unlawful Islamic immigrants for reason of this New Thought religion, aka one world religion under new world order and one world government. Just landed on articles at muckraker .com, revealing that the same is happening in our backyards, for neither it is an accident to insist keeping those borders broken down. Although the plots of the elite against humanity was delayed and halted greatly and may never come to full power, I hear little bits and pieces through Lightlines that are foretelling its coming, at least to a certain extent. The world will have to choose Father by free will through tribulation, but for us IN Christ who already made that choice is the manifestation of the power of God under the banner of divine missions to Urantia. So, we should never fear just praise and worship Father; but get ready to proclaim the Truth and cast down that New Thought, being the new seed of deception. And as Jesus Christ told us yesterday (Monday LL), we are responsible for knowing the gospel.    

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« on: August 29, 2024, 15:29:20 pm »

• 082724 Audio Tape Tuesday Lightline USA; Host: Dominick
• Subjects: Christ consciousness, New Thought infiltrating Christian religion
• Speakers: Dominick
• Transcribed by: sonsofGod
• Link To Tape: https://www.conferencecalling.com/recordings/1528070/251848/VCISPREC02_251848_20240827_110159

Dominick

Welcome to Tuesday Lightline, August 27, 2024. I'm Dominick, your host, and this is a weekly Lightline for Tuesdays. And they happen on Sundays and Mondays for sure, and some other days sometimes as well. We start with a prayer and an invocation of God our Father, our Universal Father, also that same spirit of God that Jesus revealed that resides in us and that we pray that we can achieve brotherhood and being born again of the Spirit, and that we have the benefit of your clear communication and transmission when we gather like this and ask to receive you. It is very clear and important to make it clear exactly who we are invoking and inviting to be with us and to serve. We hold these Lightlines on their request and in their service.

And this is yes, Jesus, who is divine, and that divinity we represent as Michael of Nebadon, a Creator Son stemming from the Paradise Trinity, but a Creator here in the local universe of time and space, who created us. And as Jesus was divine, that was Michael incarnating, bestowing himself as a human in his creation. And that we treat Jesus as a separate person after that event, but they can be one of the same at Michael's and Jesus’ choosing, to represent God to man.

And so, to be born of the spirit, to be born again of the spirit, is what Jesus taught in the achievement of Christ consciousness, which was to understand the divinity within as the Universal Father, and that this is the way Jesus showed that the relationship born of the spirit, and that such a divinity relationship is also a Deity relationship. And not that man is the sole origin of such a divinity that Christ consciousness recognizes, the divinity of Jesus and Michael, and our Universal Father.

And spirit involves things like the Holy Trinity and the Holy Spirit, who is the spirit associate of a Creator Son, for example. The Son and the Spirit are always intertwined. So, we thank, we thank our Lord, and we thank our Father. Our Lord will always instruct us and join us in thanking our Father.

Now, why is that important or stressed in this Lightline for today's theme? And while we settle ourselves, we welcome Ron to the Lightline. I hope you got your tea, and you're all settled down. And that brings us to 13 on the call.

So, the theme is related to something that's not necessarily controversial, but a divergence in people's approach to Christ consciousness. One of the things we talk about here and why Lightlines exist, or things like the Magisterial Foundation exist, is for things called missions, where these Divine Sons and up to deity status, can incarnate in spiritual missions. This is a .., for Bible students, this could be understood in things when I talk about the Regency, things like Psalms 46. Which also has a very widely interpreted line of 'Be still and know that I am God'. Which, for some Christians is interpreted in more of a mystical Christianity understanding, and treats Christ as a Way shower, more like an Ascended Master, which is what other religions condescend Jesus as, not both a divine Son of God, our Creator Son Michael of Nebadon bestowing, but rather the mystical Christianity views Christ Jesus as an Ascended Master. Certainly, other religions like I think Islam treats it that way.

So, why that's important is more or less an editorial, and I'm not sure if I have a transmission today, so I'm hoping, or if I'm getting any help, it's how to speak editorially on a bunch of information we have to cover. However, it’s needs to be covered, because there, if you, and again, this is editorial, if you're, if you live in the United States or Europe, or really anywhere on the planet, if you're not agitated in some aspect, well, you must be living under a rock, because there's plenty on some sort of screen telling you how to be agitated or vying for your brain space, your mind space, or propagandizing you somehow with some slant on some news that should make you agitated. It's actually designed to make you agitated, so you can't help it.

So, we've just had some political conventions, which is a textbook in rhetorical usage and symbol usage. So, some interesting side effects, well, essentially, we're not here today to be lectured. This is more of a working group Lightline today. And I can be interrupted at any moment with a transmission, but until then, we're just going to go with this lesson, and it's starts like this.

There are more like a State of the Union of transmitters is that certainly, and you as an audience of these core listeners, there is not an encouragement to be uniform in either your understanding, or even your agreement with all the transmitters who say things day in and day out, week in and week out. We have different perspectives and realities, and we try to describe what comes in. But when it comes to applying matter of understanding those lessons were human, and we're very different. And one example is how to interpret the world around us. It's as we are taught, but that's going to be totally unique to you, in your experience and you're all sorts of things. So, all I'm telling you is that there is no total uniformity in the way that Ron and I think about things, and that's why we find each other stimulating, and we find that we have the same type of mind but think and have different experiences in totally different ways, and that's actually stimulating. As Ron hears things, for example, that can test his own thoughts and ideas with new information, and likewise for myself. And same with Elise and Lemuel and other transmitters.

So, I'm just here to give you some insights onto as to why there might be such division in the world, and some of those things are related to Christ consciousness. The religion of the Democratic Party, as it has been or is being reformed. And if you recall, in a Light line, I don't know, a month ago, we talked about how the political parties that you might have grown up with are actually in complete flux by now. There should be no illusions that anything you and I grew up with, even 10 to 20 years ago, resembles anything like what you should or would expect, it’s just don’t look like now. And one of those things is the approach to religion and God. Now, me Dominick, I'm kind of an investigative person. I'm open to information, and I do a lot of like forensic things and critical thinking, and I try to synthesize. And so what happens sometimes is I get - what's the word? - cognitive dissonance. When what was spoken to yesterday, I realized I'm under some sort of spell of illusion of thought that's gone one way, and that new synthesis broke the previous understandings.

Now a lot of propaganda and the information is going to be like a game called Plinko, if you've ever seen prices, right? But that's kind of like an inclined pegboard with a bunch of pegs, and at the top of the slope you let go of a disc. And so basically, this disc has a binary choice, is it going to fall left or fall right? And it falls down like, you know, 50 levels of pegs to the point where you have no idea where it's going to land at the bottom, but it's a kind of fun game. I think they even have those kind of games and casinos. And so, you can imagine the same analogy when it comes to our thoughts. We have all of these issues, and we end up deciding on this validity or truth, and we accumulate all of these thoughts, and we land somewhere at the bottom, and it's built on these series of of decisions on facts and truth and opinion, on right and wrong, or, you know, etc. And then that's always in flux.

So, back to our theme, you know, little things like the alluring that, for example, Eisenhower put in ‘under God’ in the Pledge of Allegiance back in the day, so that there would be a distinction between the United States and communist countries. And that we learned that the Democratic Convention in 2020 purposely omitted that, which is politics. You know, you can put it in, you can put it out. But for the lesson, the context is ‘under God’ is a nod to that personhood of divinity. Whereas the religion of you could say the left today, and we'll get to the right, the right is no saint. So, I don't wish to be biased, because the spell can be easily broken further right as well. But for the sake of the Christ consciousness lesson, the reason the far left and the new alliance of democratic religion of the left can cohabitate religiously, is because of an understanding of Christ consciousness, which has its origins and evolution.

In some respects, Vatican two, you could say, set some conditions for this as an approach politically amongst religions, is to not be so dogmatic about the divinity of God or the divinity and humanity of Jesus, and rather to accept that all religions have a seat at the table. Now this is a kind of origins of what's called post modernism, where opinion and perspective take almost precedence or equality, with fact and truth. So the kind of joke of critics of post modernism is that it doesn't matter if you're right, it matters that you try to answer the question. And the joke is, if the student says that two plus two equals five, well, good for you. You tried to answer the question, and if that's what you think, then your perspective is equal amongst all the others who also have an opinion. And then the fact is that two plus two equals four. But a post modernism says that it's your personal truth that matters more than any objective truth.

And so, with Christ consciousness this post-modernist approach inverts the divinity. Remember rebel doctrine inverts. So, it's not going to be outright evil rebellion declaring, hey, we're evil and you should join us. It's simply going to teach something that they think is good and equal in its value to what they're contradicting. And so it becomes inverted. So, the inversion of the Father within and a divine Christ, representing a deity and being divine and incarnate, incarnating and bestowing and having a fragment of the Father, cohabitating within you and having a relationship. The inversion of that is that you simply need to tap into your inherent divinity. And that would… and that achieves your Christ consciousness.

I'd like to thank a source of information for giving more words to this, and it's Melissa Doherty on YouTube, and I'm just citing some passages. But in the Bible, and I'm not a student of the Bible, so I rely on others, but when she cited these passages, it would be Matthew 7:21-23, next would be 2 Corinthians 11:2-4, and thirdly, Galatians. 1:6-7; those passages are in context of the difference between approaches and Christ consciousness. Now, something about these Lightlines and say, the fifth epochal revelation, and something like the teaching mission, or whether transmission with the administration and spiritual circuits of divinity and God are even possible. And welcome, Charlotte.

Anyway, where was I? Yes. The trepidation and criticism have been warranted, but somewhat misplaced at times, and at other times it's been beneficial. Because, well, what do you mean Dominick by saying that you still haven't defined what the left religion is? And so it's not necessarily, it's not theosophy, it's not New Age. It's something that I didn't have words for even a week ago until now, and apparently, it's called New Thought (transcriber’s note: capitalized only for emphasis throughout). And new… but I'm, I'm not a stranger, and no one should be a stranger to what's called New Thought. But New Thought is not New Age, but New Thought is this kind of a mystical Christianity. Therefore, people claim to be Christian, but it's a different attitude and view of Jesus. And so Lightlines are not theosophical, because we invoke and we are in service to the divine person of Jesus, and the origins of his divinity, our Universal Father and our Creator Son.

We are not New Thought, which has its origins in fairly modern times. And it's really looking at Christ as something that is of an inversion of being born of the Spirit. I in that you're not born in the Spirit of of our Universal Father and our Lord, rather, you are born in an almost… Well, a discovery and ascendancy, if you will, of discovering your power. And so that's why you have all these messaging of good vibes, good thoughts, happiness, and that the goal of Christ consciousness is to find your untapped divinity, which is inherently in you.

Now it's up to the students to determine how truthful all of that is. But now you have a little bit of an understanding how this starts to become applied on a planetary scale, and how something like conflict can happen with large sets of populations hardwired as human free will beings to be self-deterministic. And on one end, you might have a general population who understands Christ consciousness with a… with one view of the Universal Father and more biblical nature, and Old Testament nature, and another large segment who, A) views that differently, and B), and B and C), both sides end up seeing the other as in their worst light of threat, existentially to the other.

Now a little bit back to the agitation is that there's no way to remove this from human experience. None of our institutions are immune from this subtle behavior. So, the only reason I shared the fact that I sometimes disagree strongly, is that not to be put off by this, but to understand that a Unity does exist despite any difference in our service, devotion, faith and love for our Father and our Lord Michael and Jesus. And all aspects of any revealed religion, like the Paradise Trinity that we also know as God, such as the Holy Spirit of the Infinite Spirit and our Mother Spirit, who, despite any problems she has endured, we do have an experience with her and have enjoyed that in the past.

So, some of the New Thought authors are, I guess, last names like Goddard and Butterworth. But it's an inversion of Christ consciousness that puts the… elevates the self as a little God by replacing your personal divinity with that of our Universal Father and our Lord. And therefore, it also elevates the mind as a method and vehicle to sink our way into Christ consciousness. Which would be the teachings of a New Thought. It's not something we teach on Lightlines, but it does have its influence.

So, for example, New Thought, in my opinion, influences the way Lemuel talks about the ego. Whereas I personally talk about the ego from a psychotherapist and neuroscientist type of perspective. So that I could give you some insights as to why there might be conflicting in transcripts, for example, in subjects like the ego. But a New Thought, the ego is something that gets in the way of discovering and working with your own divinity. For example, with if you leave New Thought and look at it from a neuroscientist psychological perspective, without an ego, you would be… the world and universe would be so immense, there would be too much to deal with, and you would… you wouldn't know how to have a laser focus of your mind, of an identity, and a drive.

But that where those things come back into a kind of a unification is that you could say, Lemuel and I would both agree that once you learn to direct your ego in the will of our Father, and within a cooperator with spirit in the ego in its right place, then do you have a well-functioning human being born again of the Spirit and the ego is working as it should and could in its peak performance.

And so, just when you think the one side is a god… is godless, just understand now they have their own approach, and it's kind of most post-modernistic you understand now, their approach to Christ consciousness doesn't necessarily include a biblical God and the fifth epochal revelation God for that matter.

And then just to be balanced. And who knows what fair is, but to be balanced is that just when you think you fall like that Plinko I was talking about earlier. And if you disagree with the left and you gravitate to the right, or vice versa, but if you gravitate towards the right, and this is why I like Urantia Book crowds. One such being Alfred Weber, who I invited on a forum I don't know, way back in like early 2000s and he writes a book about EXO politics, and he's very much a Urantia book, I don't know, student, advocate, believer, what have you.

Anyway, this last month, he looked at and Charlotte, I think of you because of your question last week, asking what the cabal is. And they get to the point the subject matter that Alfred was presenting, what is the relationship between the word Maga and the Church of Satan being the fifth, I don't know, fifth tier, what have you? Fifth Level of the most adepts of that church reach a level called Maga. And Alfred's claim was that someone like Trump knows that relationship. So that's just to be fair and break the spell. Because what ends up happening is we all fall into some sort of Plinko the world's kind of designed to put us left or right, and some of the service we can do to for each other is to help each other break these spells and continually renew our dedication to God. And so, we renew our service to creating Lightlines and missions, and serving something like the Magisterial Foundation, so that things like the Magisterial Missions can happen through these Paradise Sons called the Avonal Sons. And that the Regency has a flavor and character, not unlike Psalms 46. That peace shall reign, and our spell bound minds will be silent, and we will know God.

So at this point, we'll …we can open it up to questions. You can press five-star. A lot of these times, a simple question could mean to be, what did you mean by this or that when you said this or that? Or what does this mean is a good question. I know Arthura talked about words yesterday. I looked a little bit more into those words, and I really ended up liking the word archcremental. And I believe the missions would be archcremental. To clarify the meaning of evil, we have, in a sense, scientifically figured out why Germany followed the Nazis in so much evil, for example, in the what the Milgram experiments is that when people are just doing their job.

But another thing about evil is that people are told to do something, some small thing, by someone in authority, and authority, together with some sort of small increment of a job, will bypass Critical Thinking of whether something was, is, evil or harmful. And that's what those Milgram experiments did, as a person in a lab coat instructed the person in front of them to shock the person in the next room who they couldn't see, if that person got the answer wrong. And eventually, within five minutes, people were administrating lethal doses of electric shock. And before that experiment started, the science hypothesized that a large but not unanimous segment, maybe 15-25% of people would end up giving a lethal dose. It turned out to be nearly 100%.

So, that's just one insight into evil that it is often incremental and involves authority. Now, some of the words around incremental is the root word or root cremate, C, R, E, M, E, N, T, and apparently that means both the quality of something and the quantity of something. So, we have increment, and then we have a word called decrement. Interestingly, we have a sacrament, and the worst of the worst of rebels, like the cryolites, do the opposite and inverted of a sacrament, and they actually use excrement. They're bastards. I'm not endorsing anything about them, but that's an example of the rituals they use to desecrate and mock our Lord when you go down that path fully into being an acolyte of the rebel.

So back to the words, even if you break creement down into just meant M, E, N, T, that could be a noun or a verb, and it also relates to action, result and process. So, be aware now of all the words that have meant in them, and that is the mind, but also how the mind is the first act before something actually manifests, in terms of both your actions and something that happens in the world. And so anyway, the suffix that you add -al, so increment-al, ment-al if you add al. Al also means relating to or characterized by an action or process. So those are just interesting things to think about.

So, another word that Arthura used was comcremental, and so that would be kind of a joining together, whereas discremental would be going apart. And as far as I can tell, those three words would be new words in the English language, archemental, concremental and discremental.

So that's pretty much the end of the Lightline. If there are any questions, or if anyone would like to transmit, we're on press five star. Charlotte, you came in late. We talked about Christ consciousness, and we quoted Psalms 46, Matthew 7:21-23, 2 Corinthians 11:2-4, and Galatians 1:6-7. And we related the New Thought type of religion to a Christ consciousness that the Democrats of the left seem to be embracing, which fits with a post-modernist view and also why it would be more allied with Islam, because Islam treats Jesus as an Ascended Master.

So that's not necessarily… New Thought, wouldn't necessarily be the same as Islam, but they could ally in that they would both be allied in their in the benefit of their political alliance in relegating Christ to an Ascended Master. And then, to be fair, we talked about, if you're a spellbound or into the right, I think Alfred Weber not only talked about Maga, but that the generals who, I think his claim was that the generals who support Maga are linked to generals in the United States Army, which should be totally understood in its postmodern approach. Legally recognizes the Church of Satan as a valid religion in the United States Army,

And that we talked about in past Lightlines, I don't think they were recorded. Some of this cabal, when it comes down to earth, is related to how to weaponize an egregore which was kind of a humanized and made to be something good in like the movie Men Who Stare at Goats, but those are the generals who were cited as LaVey and Aquino. Those are Church of Satan founders, for example, and that would be in the military, but that would be also related to, again, what I've talked about in the past, some of the elite remote viewing units would be related to this, and some of those graduates clearly espouse a new thought interpretation of the Bible and Christ. It's clear as day once you start to understand this kind of stuff at a large level. So, I hope that all helps and have a good day. Bye.

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NETHERLANDS iNTERNATIONAL CALL IN NUMBERS AND ACCESS CODES / Re: Lightline Netherlands International

« on: August 28, 2024, 00:54:02 am »

• 082624 Audio Tape Monday Lightline Netherlands International; Host: Elise Sophia Veronica; other transmitter: Ron Besser
• Subjects: choices between good and evil, how to fight evil, the Father’s mercy; only the collective effort of all people can save the planet; nations must recognize the need to cooperate; Apostle Andrew about their lives with Jesus; who still is the Truth, Way, and Life; Machiventa Melchizedek is in charge of all Urantia missions; Jesus Christ Second Return, call to his apostles, death will never again sepaarte us from Jesus Christ.  
• Speakers: Arthura, Machiventa Melchizedek, Apostle Andrew, Michael of Nebadon, and Jesus Christ. Transcribed by: sonsofGod
• Link to tape: https://www.conferencecalling.com/recordings/1528070/251848/VCISPREC02_251848_20240826_110108

Elise
Hello everyone, and welcome George Huber. He just got in. We are about to start. This is the Lightline Netherlands International. It's Monday, 26th of August 2024. I am Elise, your host, and I welcome you all, and thank you for joining. Well, let's ask for the presence of anyone from spirit. but before that, I would like to ask for good and clear connection and I hope we will receive some words from the spirit side. And we ask you, Father, that your blessings may be upon this session. We hope to hear from your messengers, and may you always be with us to guard us and guide us all the way into your kingdom, so that we may serve you forever in your beautiful creation. Well, let's see if there is anybody who would like to speak to us today.

Artura
This is Arthura, and I will speak for a moment on a topic that has been brought up before and will probably take some time to be fully understood and lived by every child of God. It's about doing wrong, evil sin, and forgiveness. And most of all, to recognize the blessing received from the Father, always for a new and cleansed soul that will carry one over the hill of regret and contrition, to begin anew with the blessing of forgiveness, fully given by the Universal Father, who is always merciful in all things he does for all his children.

We all know that evil exists. Every one of you is exposed to evil or doing wrong, and you know how wrongdoing may turn into sin. And in the almost unforgivable deeds when one has fallen into danger that can harm the soul forever. And where it's hard to get freed from. because in such a situation one is so self-focused in his thinking of being the most important creature that exists right there and then, so involved in its own tragedy or unsolvable problems, that could drive that person to the most terrible things and act against the will of the Father.

Evil can only be fought if one is truly rooted in the trust of the Creator and believes in the truth of what the Father really is and represents. The Father knows no evil. He allows man to experience good and evil, to learn and to make his own choices, to distinguish good from bed and to seek the truth, beauty, and goodness of God, who created man in His image and gave him the ability to choose according to his own free will.

So, man will be exposed to both good and evil, because there is good and evil in what he has created for himself in the course of evolution. But man, and every creature of God with free will, must learn to make choices and find out what is best for the survival of his being, his soul, that takes him through the long journey of learning and choosing between good and not so good. Which can develop in both directions, where he has always a free choice, and will therefore have to live the consequences.

But God is a God of mercy, and the most true Father for all his children. And even in the erring of his children he shows his love and mercy, when his children show sincere remorse and try to make up for what has been harmed by choosing wrong from right. The sinner will always be given a new chance to prove his loyalty and faith to the Father. And the Father will take his erring children into his heart, when the child is sincerely aware of its wrongdoing, or evil, and decides to make amends for its mistakes and the harm he has done to himself and to others.

Life is full of experience. It's experiencing and making choices that are presented to you at every corner you turn, but to protect yourself from making the wrong choices in life, you have also been given the Adjuster, a mystery monitor of your soul, who is the living presence of the Paradise Father.

I am Arthura. I can only tell you, try to surrender yourself to your guiding and most surfaceable companion, your Adjuster, who will keep you from evil and going astray. As you listen to his whispering divine counsel, where he shows you the way of righteous and honest living among your brothers and sisters, whom you may serve and care for, with the help of His ever-present love and good intentions for you. To keep you from harm and evil doing while journeying to the Holy Father himself for your eternal service to him and his universe. I thank you all. This is Arthura at your service. Good day.

Elise
Thank you, Arthura.

Machiventa Melchizedek
Here is Machiventa Melchizedek.

Elise
Welcome Machiventa Melchizedek. Please go ahead.

Machiventa Melchizedek
Thank you. Thank you, Elise. I welcome all. I am Machiventa, and I'd like to speak to some practical manners in which your planet can be assisted, and most probably brought into some more... more ways to its existence to go forward and talk about what is needed at this time. The task for all people now, and I mean all people, is to realize that nothing in this world can be achieved, unless all nations become aware that progress and change can only be achieved through cooperation, and by new agreements on all disputes that now stand in the way of peace.

Every effort should be made to create a clear understanding among all countries and peoples that a different future must be achieved in this confused and destroyed world. In which there is no collective courage or willingness to tackle the restoration of order and security, or to start initiatives to find ways to get along and work with and for each other, for all inhabitants of Urantia.

I am Machiventa. And the great lesson that humanity must learn is to realize that through joint effort, and by that we mean the effort and commitment of all nations, some agreements should be reached, and that no country or group will be excluded from the care and attention that need to get them out of poverty and need to build a society for themselves.

The great and powerful nations do have a responsibility to step forward and provide assistance and protection to the less fortunate nations and countries, who have for a very long time been unable to develop themselves to a certain level of government, because of either through domination or restriction of freedom, or through wars that flare up constantly. And don't forget the many wars that have to do with drug, dealing drugs that harm and dominate large populations, that keep countries in the grip of criminals and severely damage progress, with the majority of the population suffering from extortion and deception, and many of their youth deliberately becoming involved in criminal organizations where they hardly have an ability to break away from.

Every individual must become aware of how the world depends on each other in forming states, nations, countries, that can bring prosperity and harmony to all, to all people. All have a right to education, housing, work, health care, and recreation. These are the basic needs for a good society in which children can grow up healthy and safely, so that they can take on the role of strong and responsible leaders in a time where hopefully selfishness and greed have disappeared, and where poverty and hunger no longer exist.

On a small scale, everyone may have a chance to contribute to change. Look around for those who have the same ideas and ideologies. And will together be able to demonstrate unity of thought and action, thereby inspiring others who will see the results and the power of a common effort and strive for improvements.

Look around in the groups that you belong to. Look to groups that achieve success through mutual understanding and respect for each other, and with the aim and purpose of bringing order to a chaos that now reigns in the world and makes life very unpleasant and unsafe. For every citizen has the duty to care for others. This must be expressed primarily in the family, continued in further education, and become a normal way of working and living in society, in order to maintain rest and peace, in preventing domination over others, and where more goals will be achieved, and society as a whole may benefit from the collective approach and solutions found to what is currently threatening the world.

All are children of the Father, and all have the same rights and duties to guard this world and make it a world that offers men a safe and healthy existence, not allowing the one to benefit more than the other. Each can make a difference and commit oneself in a small circle through collaboration and to show what people can do when they join forces and start living and working, not only for themselves, but also for each other.

I know your world. I am Machiventa Melchizedek. And I know that there is much that can be simplified and unified into one group, such as political, religious and social groups that all share a common goal and have the ability to transform into a powerful movement with all the same goal in mind. it would help to have the people focus together on one thing that could be made better that could work better.

You see it in your own organization. How many groups do you have that read the Urantia book and distance themselves from getting together? They all try to be the best. Are they really trying to do it together with one goal in mind?

This is Machiventa Melchizedek. We advise you to think about this. It will help your community and the world to come together to make decisions that will be easier to implement, if you all try to work in more cooperative groups, pursuing the same goal. Which will certainly improve the quality of material, but also spiritual life on this planet.

We, the Melchizedeks, still have our hopes on many groups that are willing to see the urge to join forces and may unite small corporations into bigger and more effective and strong pillars to support today's society. I am Machiventa Melchizedek, and I thank you for listening. And I thank you Elise for taking this message.

Elise
Well, thank you, Machiventa. Thank you very much.
This is Elise. I'm looking at the dashboard for a minute to see if there's anyone. Okay, that's Pictorius who came to join us. Welcome Pictorius, and I will see if we can get anyone else here to talk to us. Just give me a minute.

Apostle Andrew
Good evening to you, Elise, and good day to you all. This is Andrew, the apostle Andrew.

Elise
Welcome Andrew. Thank you for joining us. Thank you. Speak if you are ready.

Apostle Andrew
Yes, I am. Thank you. I am Andrew, the apostle, that was appointed at the time, under the care of Jesus as head of the group of apostles that Jesus had chosen to accompany him on his journeys through the regions. The same regions where people are now fighting each other, and peace cannot be found in.

In our time, there was also unrest, as we were dominated by the Romans, who had strict rule over their territories, which included a very great part of Europe, part of West Asia, now the Middle East, and the northern part of Africa. People in those regions often tried to rebel against the laws and rules of the Romans who subordinated them, but the Romans had the task of keeping the population calm. They did not oppress the population to the extent that we were not allowed to practice our own religion or rituals. But they applied their own laws and carried out the orders given by the emperor in Rome, to the authorities appointed over the various territories.

In our time, there lived in Judea and the surrounding area many groups of different faith, but mostly Jewish people who adhered to Jewish customs and laws, which were strictly observed at the time, and under which most of the apostles and also Jesus had grown up and were familiar with. Jesus never looked at origin or faith. Jesus elected his disciples based on their sincerity and their willingness to follow him on his journeys through the regions of Judea. And he asked us to believe in him, and each of the apostles immediately believed in Jesus' sincerity and his honest manner of speaking. And we, the apostles, were all willing to leave our families or work to go with him, to follow him, in complete freedom and expectation in the unfolding of an unknown vision to us, which was to establish God's Kingdom on earth.

In a sense, Jesus has asked all of you the same thing, and you have been following him in his plans for his return as promised, and to help him prepare the world to receive him. Unfortunately, due to various circumstances that you know of, and are quite well informed, this has still not happened. And Jesus has had to adapt several times to try to find an opportunity where he could make his intentions known to the world in a peaceful manner. But war and rebellion, both on and off the planet, have thus far prevented the return of Jesus, and made it impossible for him to mingle with the people in a safe environment, in which he could work and shape his purposes. Which are quite different from what Jesus brought to this world so long ago in his human life, where he came to reveal God as the loving Father of all in an environment subject to the strict laws and customs of the Jewish religion. Or in the case of the Roman Empire in the many gods and customs that very often amounted more into festivities than to a sincere belief and knowledge of God.

I am Andrew. I was appointed as the first apostle. I was the head of the group. We lived and traveled with Jesus, and our life and work with Jesus was not always easy. All apostles had their own task, and all of them held on to their tasks, and Jesus gave us enough time to think and ask questions. But often we misunderstood him, and then we felt disappointed that we did not have the ability to think like Jesus. As he was always a master teacher, and never got tired of explaining the things of his Father in Heaven again.

But because of his kind, impressive, yet simple way of life, and his constant willingness to help people with their needs and the emptiness in their lives, plus his ever-present attention to us, it was easy to remain faithful to him. And we have always found and felt a strong feeling and sincere faith to remain with Jesus. None of the apostles ever seriously considered leaving him or being unfaithful, and we all loved him dearly. We could not imagine our lives without him.

How great was the shock and devastation when Jesus actually died on the cross and we had to carry on without him after a time, a terrible time of fear and uncertainty, and the horrible death of our best friend and teacher. But Jesus remained present as he remains present today to all who call on him and honor his name. Jesus is truly the Way, the Truth and the Life, as we the apostles have experienced with him, and as we were allowed to walk next to and with him in that important part of his earthly life. And where he always encouraged us and told us about the Kingdom of God that everyone could share with him as you follow him on his way to the Father in heaven.

For people today, Jesus is still the most important person and teacher. For many people. And his words and teachings have opened the eyes of many who had forgotten God, or had a wrong idea about their Creator, if they had any idea at all. And Jesus remains the Way, the Truth and the Life, and he will lead this generation also to God, who is his and our Father, and whom we may know and serve in his vast, vast universe, where all his children will find many opportunities to develop their talents, to use for the development of God's creation.

I am Andrew, the apostle of Jesus, and I know from my own experience what I am talking about. Never, never let go of Jesus, and trust him as the Beloved Son of God, our Father, who lived his more than exemplary life as a human being among men in the divine power of Michael of Nebadon. Jesus remains committed to this world. He will continue to fight for the progress and development of the planet that means so much to him, when he represented Michael of Nebadon, the Paradise Son of God in a human body on this world. I am the apostle Andrew, and I am leaving this group, but I will be glad to speak to you again soon. And I wish you all a very good day.

Elise
Thank you, Andrew, thank you. (seconds of silence)
Hello Ron, I'm trying to come to you if you don't mind, I am unmuting you, and you might have something for us to fill up the hour.

Ron Besser
Can you hear me?

Elise
Yes, I hear you, Ron.

Ron Besser
All right. This is,

Elise
Are you able to .. Oh, I see. Sorry. Go ahead.

Ron Besser
This is Ron Besser. I'm here in York, Pennsylvania, USA. And I'm listening carefully to this Lightline. One of the reasons that I am directed to listen carefully is that I am personally going to change styles, undelivered to me as to details. But we have together made it possible to hear the transmissions of the live voice of Michael, the head of our universe, and a divine being Machiventa, who is now the chief of all humans not only on Urantia, but of the current system of Satania, which you belong to. We do not often talk about who is ruled by whom, and I want to give a brief explanation of what this system that we belong to is.

First of all, know that Urantia, the planet that you are born on, belongs to a larger planetary system of Satania. Now the spelling of that, unfortunately, is almost identical to the name of Satan. They have nothing whatever to do and never did with that individual, but the name Satania means peaceful beauty. Satan grabbed the name and tried to convince those of you who were not familiar with the organization of the universe and its rule, to join him.

Apostle Andrew
I am the apostle Andrew. I speak eloquently and carefully through Ron. Ron's time on Urantia is rapidly approaching zero. He's 82 and feels every year of it but is quite capable of speaking God and the voice of reason. In the next six months, you all will have the opportunity to view Jesus in his new personhood.

Michael of Nebadon
I am Michael of Nebadon to you, Ron. You speak eloquently and well. You are slowed down, so that people catch your words. What we want to tell all of you is that Machiventa Melchizedek will be the master in control of all the missions to Urantia, starting now. The Master Sons, the Magisterial Sons, the Sons of Sons, listen!

Apostle Andrew
We, the apostles of Jesus Christ, hereby tell all of you that we will not appear when Jesus appears on Urantia again, but we are all aligned beside him. You just can't see us. We never knew there would be an opportunity to speak so carefully, so well to all of you via a transmission. We give it to Ron.

Ron Besser
It's this. Today I can barely get awake. They are transitioning me, Ron, into the mansion worlds easily, so it's not an abrupt feeling to me. The problem with that is, I can't speak to you if they do that entirely. Therefore, I have asked the powers to be that I be permitted to stay as long as feasible on Urantia, to enjoy the power of these missions, and to take with me to the lands that I know not the experience of having lived in the flesh with a Return of Jesus Christ.

We, and that means Ron and his home in New York, and all of you and your homes around this world. Understand that the topical issue of today is not the Return of Jesus Christ, but about you, the little ones, the mini apostles. We are the grand finale of all that has been done on Urantia to this point, we must allow you, Ron, to understand that this phone connection now is to the universe.

Ron Besser
Thank you.

Michael f Nebadon
Thank you, Ron. Here is the transmitted voice of Jesus Christ.

Ron Besser
One moment.

Jesus Christ
I am Jesus, your friend. I come to you with one understanding that Ron is just a voice and nothing more. The apostles are gathered already around the person of Jesus, and Jesus is about to enter for you to see him once more. Ron prays that he may live long enough to see it too and he will.

Dominick his friend is very tired, but Dominick, find it in your heart to understand that what is about to appear is also the end of your usual concerns, not only with Ron, but with your family out west. You and Ron are now appointed to speak when you can, when you're able, with one voice. Ron gives you gladly his home when he leaves in death for the mansion worlds. But with it comes the responsibility to maintain that which he has maintained religiously for 15 years, from 2709 Sunset Lane, that is his home address.

And finally, to you, Elise. It is getting harder and harder for you to fulfill your responsibilities, but you have. You will, and please continue, even if Ron should die.

And finally, to you, the people who are listening to this transmission, there is no one better done than the voice box of this human. He insists that it be accurate, it be fully spoken, and that it be told to you as he receives it. He has attempted to do all that without concern, and now, let me tell you. That concern is now yours. Every one of you, everyone listening today, and we know you name, and know as a responsibility to know the gospel of our Lord Michael of Nebadon, and the role of Jesus Christ. Know that you are responsible for what you heard.

And now this to you, Ron. Your time on Earth is no longer disappearing. It has fully recapitulated itself into this. I am not asking that your body be removed. I'm not asking that you remove the patent for free electricity. But I am asking that you hold a daily Lightline in spokesmanship every day, after other Lightlines have completed. We'll let you set the time up, because your voice is the original voice of what we wanted to do on Urantia for 50 years. You are fine with it, but your health is beginning to disappear. You find it enjoyable, and you just enjoy listening. And for that means and matter, please note that your turn to come over to the mansion worlds is not soon, it's immediate. Yet you are represented in body form on Urantia, and can speak through your telephone to the group.

You love the work, you found it most entertaining regardless of what era you were in. For that reason, Ron, the Supreme Court is your destination, but that you are not a jurist or the jury, but you are to become one in the commiseration of how the Supreme Court adjudicates those who come before it. You know the new person who is head of the Supreme Court. I am not having you speak her name, but you admire her tremendously.

Ron Besser
Yes, I do.

Jesus Christ
For that reason, Ron, we ask you not to interject any more speech, but to listen carefully with the rest of those listening now. Shortly, Elise, we will return this to you to shut it down, but right now, let me tell you something you really ought to know every one of you. I, Jesus Christ, have no particular love for Urantia, it is a hostile planet to me. Yet I serve it, because that is where my missions took place. I am asking those who do transmissions with Machiventa Melchizedek in charge, learn to be particularly careful when sounding the name of Jesus, because He will transmit through them his views of Urantia, and possibly of you.

For that reason, I am telling Ron to turn this back to Elise momentarily, but to say this before he does turn it back. Each of you is my apostle. Each of you belong in my heart. I will not ever allow you to displace the truth, and you never allow it to happen. But please understand that others will begin to enter the circuitry in order to have these missions to this planet. We will keep sacred these Lightlines. And Ron, you're not going over soon. You have already attended to some of it already, but that is being forced to do it by automatic programs. You are no longer under automatic work, but your choices are with me, Jesus Christ, and Michael of Nebadon. Please understand that Ron is not the only person, you all are. You all are my apostles. Please understand that the voice of Ron is gravelly, because he's old. He doesn't have the force of youth, but we're going to keep him around a good while to make sure that when you get old, you can speak the truth too.

I am Jesus. I am the loving son of Mary and Joseph. And now, let me say one thing before I return this to your host. Ron knows Mary. They often have a conversation. Joseph is much further advanced, but he and Joseph had conversations never recorded for you to read. But have been deleted so that they do not become part of an apocrypha. In any case, Joseph told Ron the day of his death he got baffled to work the wall at the new palace of Herod. He came up the device that took him to the top of the stone wall being built, and when he got to the top, the stone wall gave way. And instead of falling outward, it fell inward on top of the device he climbed to get to the wall to work on. It killed him instantly. Jesus did not know that. He thought his father was hiding. He gathered his tools days later and said to his mother, father shall be home soon. I know it. His tools are ready to work again. Let me go along mother to hold them for you. Mother wisely told him; your father is not coming home. He has gone to see the Father. Learning that Jesus wept. Jesus was inconsolable, and so was the family. But we promise you, no longer will there be death to separate Jesus from all of you. Starting tomorrow and the 27th of August 2024 at New York Time noon, you shall see the first evidence of the missions. Something will appear and you will all know, God is on Urantia once more.

Now, we are just about done with this Lightline. As a matter of fact, we're a little bit late. It's 3:13 by my clock. For the rest of you., those who have heard the gospel spoken today know that there are many more such series coming, and that Ron will speak occasionally, and we leave it at that to all of you. I thank you for being a good audience, a giving audience, a caring audience. We will continue these Lightlines by schedule. Remember that when you enter the portal, you are in direct communion, not only with Jesus Christ, but with the Father. Elise, I'm glad to turn this back to you, and thank you for allowing me this time. Go ahead, please.

Elise
Yes, thank you. Thank you, Ron. Thank you, Jesus, for this transmission. So very important for all to hear and understand. So, there's nothing I could say to that, and I thank all attendees, and hope to see you next week again on Monday. Thank you so much. And bye-bye,


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NETHERLANDS iNTERNATIONAL CALL IN NUMBERS AND ACCESS CODES / Re: Lightline Netherlands International

« on: August 20, 2024, 15:25:11 pm »

• 081224 Audio Tape Monday Lightline Netherlands International; Host: Elise Sophia Veronica
• Subjects: The extensive works through the Magisterial Missons; further plans for Urantia; Gabriel of Salvington’s message to us; the sixth epochal revelations to Urantia need to wait; evolutionary planets development by revelation; create your own ministry.
• Speakers: Monjoronson, Christ Michael, Michael of Nebadon, Gabriel of Salvington, Universal Father, Mantutia Melchizedek, and Thought Adjuster of Elise.
• Transcribed by: sonsofGod
• Link To Tape: https://www.conferencecalling.com/recordings/1528070/251848/VCISPREC02_251848_20240819_110056

Elise
Hello to all. This is Elise Sophia Veronica for a Monday Ligh night, Lightline, excuse me, on August 19, 2024. And it's Lightline Netherlands International. I welcome you all, and I have you on my screen here now. It has gone up to 11, and welcome Salvador. We're just starting the Lightline. I'm glad to see that there are so many present, and we will thank the Father for making this gathering possible again. Thank you, Father and Michael of Nebadon, for giving us again the opportunity to be assembled under your guidance. We ask for your presence and blessings for today's Lightline. And we ask for assistance from the spirit side, from which we have had the meetings, the privilege to receive transmissions on this Netherland's Lightline for almost four years now. We pray for healing and recovering for our brothers and sisters on the forum for suffering from pain and discomfort, and we ask our celestial helpers to keep the channels clear and open to be able to hear your voices. And we thank our Father and Michael and Jesus, and all other personalities in our celestial family for sharing time with us. I'm asking for this assistance from the celestial side to come to us and please speak to us if you're there.

Monjoronson
Good day, everyone. I am here, and this is Monjoronson, and I would like to speak a little to the concerns that may go through your mind asking yourselves, where did spirit go? And what with the Magisterial Mission, which is carried out in silence? Well, I am Monjoronson. I am very responsible for these missions, and of course, we want to make this mission a success. We do our work, and it will, much later, come to a time when we help people find better ways to deal with today's problems and difficulties that have arisen on your planet, where many people have evolved in a very selfish way, and have failed to find solutions to the problems they have created. And with 'they' I mean, all of them, all of your inhabitants, as a group. By this time, you should be able and have a lot of experience to solve your complicated problems. But we are talking about your civilization where egoistic behavior has kept people apart, and where you are deprived of training in the many issues and things that now affect your life on the planet. And your people need change on a massive scale, for the simple reason that you do have the necessary knowledge but have not used that knowledge for the right purposes.

You have been given revelation to get man acquainted with other realities, to understand how to run a society and prepare for higher spiritual status that will follow after you leave this material world. And your written revelation, such as the Urantia Book, is an important tool to become increasingly involved with the universe, with its creator and rulers, and it helps to clarify your vision on how to see things in a more realistic perspective. And all of that in addition to the revelation you yourselves experience in life as a human being, and later on in your ascension career as a spiritual being.

We, the Magisterial Sons, we will assist humanity. We will counsel your official representatives in governments and otherwise. We do not take the place of Jesus. We never would or could, but we assist Jesus by preparing a way to make the world more acceptable and receptive to his return, by carrying out our agenda. And also trying to connect with the world and its people in what we can offer humanity in its efforts to lead your nations in making this world a dignified and livable place without greed, and without leaving waste products to future generations.

I am Monjoronson, and we have told you before that our work is extensive and may even be surprising to us in some respects. But we have vast experience in missions. And we are well prepared for setbacks or opposition from any hidden quarter or opinion on your world. We keep doing our work as planned. And we are well aware of what the world has missed to achieve, or to which no attention has been paid as a result of its decline, and by the pursuit of power and lust for material profits. Which always leads to abuse and destruction, and it distracts men from progression in making full use of the privilege and presence of the Adjuster to help him remember his purpose. Which goes far beyond the purpose of earthly pleasure, and which has been completely ignored, because you're training and education neglect to teach the very important questions of life. And most of all, denies God his place in your society.

So, as Magisterial Sons, we have our own agenda, and we are trying with many others, to get well, let's say this planet on its feet again, to get some healing for the people, for the planet, which is so necessary. We have been looking at some videos about nature and what has been lost, what has been destructed, and what is left of some beautiful places where people, where mostly wild animals used to live. And it's a very, very sad thing to see what humans do to the beautiful planet of Urantia.

But we say again to everyone, let's work together. Train your patients. We are not there yet to ask for you, but we are sure that much must have gone off to a good start before these missions are fulfilled. And that we can and must help you to find ways to look at your planetary problems to heal this planet, and to look for a fair distribution of what the world produces. And of course, get the people to become much more familiar with our Father in heaven, whom we always represent in all our assignments on any planet in God's universe.

You all live in a small and remote part of the universe, but you are a part of the whole, and therefore you participate in the whole. Be aware of that. Be good to yourself, to your neighbor, to your people, to your planet, stay with us in all your expectations and good work to be done for Urantia. We are here, and we will be in contact. Just wait. This is Monjoronson. I thank you all, and I leave by saying good day.

Elise
Thank you. Monjoronson.

Christ Michael
My dear people, as your brother and friend, I come to you as Christ Michael, I speak to you all. I am both Michael and Jesus, and we speak as one, Blessings to you all, and we give you our words here to encourage you to continue and never give up faith in our Heavenly Father, who is the Universal Father of all, of all that is and ever will be.

I am Christ Michael. Please, continue to believe in what will come to you in the future, after the world is cleansed of the evil of war, of greed and lust that now occupy the minds of many on your planet. That will change. For there will come a time, after the Magisterial Sons have completed their routine work to assist you in bringing new, refreshing and more enduring ideas, for all to live by with new assignments, new ideas, new work to be carried out by those who will receive our call. Who have cooperated with us to establish a foundation of trust, and who will be able to provide education to all who show an interest in this world that will be freed of war, domination and violence. This, of course, will take time, but the method used to achieve this will be made clear and the majority of the population will then readily follow new instructions for a society that will bring on Urantia the dawn of time for peace and prosperity that you are all hoping for.

But that foundation of your new society must be solid with clear rules and a charter to live by, just as your constitution. Your constitutions have now been adopted by your nations, and as you have sought to bring the nations together in a union of United Nations, from which the new rules will be derived in an appropriate charter. Which will lead to a more economic, social, and hence more spiritual way of life that will be desired and accepted by all. But we can't be hasty, because a lot of time is needed to prepare all this, and slowly but surely, people are willing to start to see those better ways and means and understand how to deal with the multitude of things in your society that need to be changed radically, in behavior and attitude towards life in general.

I am Michael. I am Christ Michael. I know man's efforts and its failures to make this planet a place where you can live in comfort and peace, but we have all learned that you will never be successful until there is a common willingness to give up greed, power, possession. So that there will be a more or less forced establishment of new governments on Urantia accepted by the majority of the population. Who will then take the lead in rallying the remainder of a stubborn group and convince them of new methods of teaching material, and also spiritual knowledge so necessary for all in this world, where God, our Father, has been lost for centuries, and where the knowledge of human existence on this planet has failed to survive spiritually, and have left its people in a mist of ignorance.

I am Christ, Michael. I am your Creator, your Father, your brother and friend, and I love this planet, on which I had my life in the flesh, as you do at this time in history. The times since my birth have not changed much, except for your technical development, which has not been used properly, but mostly to invent weapons that are so dangerous that they could destroy the planet in a few moments and leave it burning to never again become a place for humans to live on.

As Christ Michael, I tell you that I truly love and care for you and your planet. And that all must become responsible and willing to work together. We have tried to reach you for so long, and we have been stopped by the many acts of insurrection and destruction that leave us unable to begin our shared commitment to help healing the planet. And to negotiate with those who really understand that the planet is on the verge of destroying itself if no urgent changes take place, to look for a different future. A time and place for all people to work and live in a community that strives for good, physical and mental health in a healthy society.

Michael of Nebadon
I, Christ Michael, I am now Michael of Nebadon. Your Creator Father and Sovereign over this local universe, Nebadon, which is facing the many problems of rebellion and evil behavior of human and spiritual life together. And where we must settle matters so that everyone knows that I am the Sovereign of My universe, and I will ensure that it returns to governments that cannot be taken over by rebels who think they can have it their way. They will be pushed aside and have to wait for other assignments that will not be given to them in the near future, because we can't trust them in their specific duties as part of the regulations in my universe. I am Michael of Nebadon, and those who want to follow me are very welcome. And they will share in my responsibilities and duties that I have for my universe. I go by the living truth of our Father on Paradise, and I will never forsake His will. He is the Sovereign of the vast universes of His creation. Those who follow me follow the Father, and they will have eternal life in and with him as a true child of God, the First Source and Center forever. I am Michael of Nebadon, and I step back, and I give you Gabriel of Nebadon.

Elise
Thank you. Thank you, Christ Michael and thank you Michael of Nebadon, and welcome Gabriel. Please go ahead.

Gabriel
Yes, thank you. Thank you, Elise, this is Gabriel. Listen to me. I bring you some words. My name is Gabriel. Gabriel of Salvington, and I speak to all on this Monday Lightline. So here I am. This is Gabriel, and I am the one you might call Michael's right hand, as I was the first person created by his hands. And I am very much like my Father and Mother, Michael of Nebadon, your Creator Father, and Mother Spirit, the Creative Spirit, who was previously Michael's concert. I replace Michael, and I work with his staff sometimes where necessary, and I know the universe of Nebadon as well as Michael does. I have inherited many qualities from my Father Michael, but not his divine qualities as a Creator.

I am the first administrative executive in Michael's universe, and I take over for Michael when he is away for an extended period of time. As he was during his bestowals, his incarnations in the likeness of seven of His created beings that he created in his universe. I work with and for Michael daily and my devotion and love are for him and his universe, and the many beings that live in his universe. For the evolution and wellbeing of all that evolves from the day I came into existence and realized my task and responsibility as the first Local Universe Son of my parents. I know exactly my place and my duties, and I love Michael as my Father, as I love our Father on Paradise, the Father of all, who you might say is my grandfather.


My duties are many, and I know this universe, and everything related to it very well. I do take care of everything in this local universe as my Father Michael would do himself. I do not go on missions, but I do represent cases in the high courts, as was the case in Gabriel against Lucifer; to name the most serious case we have encountered in this local universe. Where he, Lucifer, took full action against the will and rules of God, the Universal Father, by denying the existence of God, and demanding free rule over the system of Satania, of which he was then the sovereign ruler. And of which he was expected to assist Michael in that part of the universe of Nebadon. Well, this all was made known to you through the text in your Urantia Book. So, I step in for Michael in many cases and circumstances, including approaching humans, or to announce the good news or just messages such as here in a transmission. I am not a teacher, but I express myself in divine knowledge, which is my own through my high position as the first created divine offspring of Michael in this universe called Nebadon.

I love my Father Michael dearly, and I admire his divine attributes and works that are always dedicated to the Father, to the Universal Father, the mighty God and Creator of all, who is and ever will be. My existence and work are dedicated to that of Michael of Nebadon, and I will always adhere to the will of Michael, who represents the will of our Paradise Father. Ather. This is Gabriel, and I had just these few words for you all, to let you know that I am also here for you as much as Michael is in his love and devotion for your existence and your sometimes troubled life here on this world. I bid you farewell, and I wish you a very good day.

Elise
Well, thank you very much, Gabriel of Nebadon. Okay, this is Elise, and I will have a look at the ... at my screen. We have Jose and George and Charlotte coming in. So altogether, we have 15 people, and I am going to see if we have more from the spirit side coming to us. Just give me a minute.

Universal Father
This is Father, Elise. I greet you all. This is the Universal Father speaking to all of you. I am your Universal Father, and if you'd like to know me, you have to learn to listen to your Adjuster, who is a real fragment of me that I gave you, to have the opportunity to learn who I am. And to climb up in a spiritual status to finally meet me on Paradise, where I am present and from where I have my place to oversee my creation at all times.

Because most people do not know how to discover me inside of them, how to listen, how to be still, revelation is given to each world from time to time. And it is through revelation that man learns to know about administration, leadership and educational opportunities in my universe, that is there for all of you to experience for an endless time of no time. Revelation comes to all inhabited planets with a purpose to educate the people of the planet about its history, its spiritual management and assistance that is given to every planet, next to the inner individual assistance, each human receives by way of their own experience and trials in their material, morontial and spiritual lives on the planet and thereafter.

Your planet has received five epochal revelations, beginning with the arrival of the 100, coming from Jerusem, and transferred into beings of dual nature, who were sent to your earth to assist your Planetary Prince one half million years ago. To help him in his administration and progression on the planet, which failed in its purpose, largely by the decision of your Planetary Prince to join your system sovereign in his rebellion and sin against the Universal Father. And the planet from there on, was cut off and in quarantine from any spiritual communication for about 250,000 years.

A second epochal revelation came with the arrival of your Material Son and Daughter, Adam and Eve, who had the task to uplift the population with education, and to improve the human genetics on this evolving world. Because of the planet's isolation and the still influential Planetary Prince, Adam and Eve had to leave the planet in default, but nevertheless left many good things to the planet's progression and to the development of the human population.

A third epochal revelation came to your world by the incarnation of a Melchizedek Son, who came to rescue the planet where hardly any light could be found after so many years of separation from spirit influence and contact. This was Machiventa Melchizedek, who volunteered to go to Urantia, and tried to keep of what was left of the spiritual light on Urantia, and in the human belief in the one God and Creator.

The fourth revelation is the birth of Jesus, where your Creator Son, Michael of Nebadon incarnated in the flesh as a little baby, born as a human, to experience his creation and to reveal God as your Father, and the Father of the universe of universes.

The fifth epochal revelation is the written text that was brought to you in a book form by the name of the Urantia Book. Which tells you about God, the First Source and Center, your Father on Paradise and his existential associates, the Eternal Son, and the Infinite Spirit, and his coordinates in the Holy Trinity. It also explains to you the extensive administrations and divisions in staff and personnel in the Grand Universe, and even about the Master Universe. All of this you have come to know about not even a century ago. But has unfortunately been made partly invalid by the fact that there has been such great disturbance in the universes when a high deity decided to blow himself up and bring enormous damage to the Father's administration and his universes. But the book gives you still enough information to go by.

A sixth epochal revelation was due to appear on your planet. And when it does, it will probably be again in book form to explain to you much more precisely what has happened and the changes that are being made in the universe as a whole, and on your world. Many things you have read and have been listening to over the last years will be explained more deeply, and you will get a much broader picture of the life of Jesus on your world, with a deeper meaning of Michael's incarnation and what it really means for his universe, and in fact for the universe of universes as a whole.

But also, the sixth epochal revelation must be postponed and wait until the people on Urantia are willing to strive for cooperation and become more aware of the truth and faith in God on Paradise. This is your Universal Father. I have spoken.

Elise
Thank you, Father.

Mantutia Melchizedek
And this is Mantutia Melchizedek. I greet you all. Let's take a look. Planets all develop in their own and different ways, depending on their position in the universe around the sun, or some other heavy source to which they belong, and from which they sometimes receive light.

This is Mantutia Melchizedek, and we see how one planet can differ from another. As you know from the Urantia Book, there are many planets that are formed in different ways. Some are ejected by parts of other planets and sometimes through suns, stars, but there are also planets that were created by collecting bits of material from the cosmos, and which have been grown under favorable conditions and prepared to develop life on them. You also know how the Life Carriers continuously work to make changes in life patterns to improve the life forms, and to increase the quality of material, and to adapt life forms to the natural conditions of the planets. They work on a planet in the beginning of its existence, and so each planet has its own history and has produced different people who live and work on these planets.

Not all the inhabited planets in Nebadon have been affected by rebellion. The number that Lucifer managed to bring under his authority was already more than enough, and everything was stopped when his manifesto went too far and could possibly expand much more. The planets were isolated and separated from the rest of Michael's regime, and remained so until the last century, where Caligastia was adjudicated by the Supreme Court of Uversa, and condemned into nonexistence.

Most planets have not been under the influence of the rebellion and have avoided the encounter with Lucifer. They have been able to follow their normal evolution, but they each have their own developmental problems, and they all receive help from a Material Son and Daughter coming from Jerusem to improve the races. And learn to use new techniques to make great progress in the revolution and in their biological development. All planets have the honor to receive a Bestowal Son, born of a woman of their own human race, who will bring revelation to them. Not all planets in Nebadon have yet received their bestowal sons. But most have been fortunate to have had the birth of a Bestowal Son, and incarnated Avonal Son, who is doing exactly the same work on a planet as Jesus did on Urantia.

However, Jesus was the only Bestowal Son in which Michael of Nebadon experienced his life as a human being on one of his planets, as one of his created beings. Furthermore, all planets are being visited from time to time by Avonal Sons to judge the state of the planet, which includes, very often, a mission with a specific purpose for that planet. And which varies depending on what is most urgent and necessary for that planet to ensure proper progress in development.

And all planets strive to eventually arrive at the first stages of Light and Life, and to pass through its phases until they can be fully regarded. Regarded as perfected planets that will function in Light and Life forever, in which they have reached a state of peace and harmony and are able to live together and participate in worship to their Creator in an individual but also in a communal way with great respect to God and His creation, with all its inherent persons, animals and scientific facts. The possibilities for a planet to get this far are unlimited, and the path is different for every planet, depending on its location in the universe, its location in relation to other systems and stars, and sometimes the size and conditions of the planet itself. With life on it develops in more or less the same way, but the creatures on it are of a wide variety and adapted to the conditions that the planet faces in its own development and evolution.

This is Mantutia Melchizedek, and I just wanted to give you this overview in a few words. I thank you for doing this transmission. I wish you a very good day.

Elise
Thank you, Mantutia Melchizedek. Thank you so much.

Thought Adjuster of Elise
This is your Adjuster, Elise. And let me finish off this Lightline with some words to all. In this spiritual mission coming to your planet, about which your Magisterial Son, Monjoronson has informed you, there is now little you can do at this time to assist. But you can try to make your own little mission, and that is the effort you make to maintain connection with the Divine Spirit living within you. I am the Adjuster, and I ask you to help you on a little mission of your own, by making a list of things you can do, how to create your mission, how to get your mission accomplished. What can you contribute to your planet, to your people, to peace? What are your options? What do you see when you look around? Is there a place to offer your services? Through this self-examination, you discover that there is much that can use a helping hand, and in this way, you create your own mission here and now, and contribute to the realization of a great mission led by the Magisterial Sons, who in turn discover people who will seem to be ready and willing to cooperate, and accept a task that matches their desire to be used, and to help the planet to heal. So that it may flourish and develop and remain safe for dozens of generations to come.

Your desire to be part of a divine mission will stimulate confidence. And experience can be gained through the necessary discipline. People often forget the simplicity of what can be contributed by creating and completing a small task you set yourself and engaging others may be in it. It will encourage you to be more than you thought possible. Do not worry about spiritual missions, about where or when. Start with yourself. Ask your friends to join you, and you will participate in building a creative and cooperative body in your society. Working together on any level with a goal in mind provides a good and broad insight into what can be achieved in these times of intolerance, dissatisfaction and unrest, and it will be a start and encouragement for everybody of what can be achieved through taking responsibility and to act. I thank you for listening. This is Elise's Adjuster, and I say goodbye to all of you.

Elise
Thank you, Adjuster. Well, I'm looking at the clock, and I see that we have past the hour. So, I'm going to my screen and see if there are any question marks, questions or no. Well, I take it that there's no one would like to add something, and I think we have heard many celestials speaking today, and I thank them for being here. And I thank you for being with us today on this Lightline. I hope you have enjoyed it, and well, I will listen to my own Lightline again later, because I have not really, do not really remember everything that was said here. So, I thank you very much, and I say goodbye for now, bye, bye, until next time.

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Thank you Robert for letting me know. I have corrected the link. 

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Valerie